our daughter she was 11 when she got a
我们的女儿在 11 岁时就拥有了一部
smartphone it's been the biggest
智能手机,这是
disruptor of us and her I think you know
对我们和她最大的干扰,我觉得
we I feel like I lose her to it quite a
我失去了她,
bit you know and um and I miss her you
你知道,我很想念她,
know like lots of parents Matt and I are
就像很多父母一样,马特 我
becoming increasingly worried about the
越来越担心
effects of smartphones and social media
智能手机和社交媒体
on our
对我们的
children over 90% of 11year olds own a
孩子的影响,超过 90% 的 11 岁儿童拥有
smartphone and almost half of the
智能手机,目前全国近一半的
nation's 9-year-olds currently have one
9 岁儿童也拥有智能手机,
too we have three kids two of them are
我们有三个孩子,其中两个是
year eight and year 11 and I really
一岁 八年级和十一年级,我非常
wanted to know what
想知道
effects smartphones have on that age
智能手机对这个年龄段的孩子有什么影响,
group there are times when I definitely
有时我确实
feel like I've lost them
觉得自己已经失去了他们,
with research showing that a quarter of
研究表明,四分之一的
UK teens are glued to their smartphones
英国青少年每天盯着智能手机
for more than 5 hours a day it's clear
超过 5 个小时 很明显,我们
that something needs to be
需要做点什么。
done one of the things that concerns me
the most about the widespread adoption
of smartphones in Children and
关于智能手机在儿童和
adolescents is its impact on sleep mood
青少年中的广泛应用,我最担心的事情之一是它对睡眠、情绪、
depression anxiety attention in a
抑郁、焦虑、注意力的影响。在一项具有
landmark scientific experiment a group
里程碑意义的科学实验中,一组
of 12-year-old school children giving up
12 岁的 老学生放弃
their smartphones for 3 weeks will
智能手机三周将
locking away their devices make our kids
锁住他们的设备会让我们的孩子更
happier healthier and more ready to
快乐、更健康、更愿意
learn and will this experiment prove
学习,这个实验是否证明
that smartphones should be banned until
智能手机应该被禁止,至少要到
at least the age of
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14 for me and Emma being on our
14 岁才能使用?对于我和艾玛来说,使用
smartphones is part of our
智能手机是我们工作的一部分,
job but it's how much time our kids
但关键是如何 我们的孩子
spend on their smartphones that's got us
在智能手机上花费了太多时间,这让我们感到
worried
担忧。
some experts feel that smartphones
一些专家认为,
should be banned under the age of 16
应该禁止 16 岁以下的儿童使用智能手机。
some feel 14 is an appropriate
另一些人认为,在英国,14 岁是合适的
age in the UK there are limited laws in
年龄。目前,
place to protect Children
保护儿童
online recently the government issued a
上网的法律有限。最近,政府发布了一项
recommendation for schools to prohibit
建议学校禁止
the use of mobile phones during the
在校期间使用手机,
school day I think as parents these days
我认为作为家长,
we're really concerned with a lot of the
我们如今非常担心
threats that exist outside our home
家庭之外存在的许多威胁,
we're perhaps not focusing enough on
我们可能没有足够关注
some of the threats that exist within
一些存在的威胁 在
the home I don't really think social
家里,我不认为社交
media is a safe place people make fun of
媒体是一个安全的地方,人们
you sometimes you can get things that
有时会取笑你,你可能会得到一些
pop up that aren't what you want I saw
你不想要的东西,我
this video on Tik Tok where I was like
在抖音上看到这个视频,我当时想,
if you don't like then your mom will die
如果你不这样做 t 喜欢那么你的妈妈会死
online bullying sextortion violent
网络欺凌性勒索暴力
pornography these are just a few
色情这些只是
examples of the harmful content our kids
有害的几个例子 我们的孩子所
encounter and to worrying effect
接触的内容,以及令人担忧的影响,有
teens with problematic smartphone use
问题使用智能手机的青少年患
are twice as likely to experience
anxiety and 50% more likely to struggle
焦虑症的可能性是其他人的两倍,患抑郁症的可能性是其他人的 50%
with depression we're actually changing
我们实际上正在改变
the fundamental nature of what it means
to be a
child across the country a number of
全国各地儿童的根本性质 的
schools have started putting smartphone
学校已经开始实施智能手机
restrictions in
限制,
place we're following the stanway school
我们正在关注斯坦威学校的
in eics as they take part in our total
EICS,因为他们参与了我们的全面
phone ban experiment so we're feeling
手机禁令实验,所以我们
more positive about homework I like that
对家庭作业感到更加积极,我喜欢
a group of 12-year-olds will be giving
一群 12 岁的孩子
up all their digital devices for 21 days
21 天内放弃所有数码设备,
that's smartphones tablets laptops even
包括智能手机、平板电脑、笔记本电脑,甚至是
their gaming
游戏
devices what I'm worried about with this
设备。我担心这项
phone ban is losing like all the trends
手机禁令会破坏所有流行趋势,就
and stuff it's like if you're boring
好像如果你很无聊,
people won't want to be friends with
人们就不会想和你做朋友 和
you 3 weeks is a long time if if you
你在一起3周是很长的时间如果你
have it every day for 6 hours or so
每天有6个小时左右
that's a long long time
这是一个很长很长的时间
the children will be monitored
孩子们将由约克大学的
throughout by researchers from the
研究人员全程监控
University of York eyes closed this
闭上眼睛这个
experiment is the first of its kind no
实验是第一次没有
one ever before has measured this scale
人 以前从未测量过
of digital detox for this length of
如此长时间的数字戒断,
time I don't know what I want for
我 知道我想要什么
breakfast there's lots of eggs and
早餐,有很多鸡蛋和
there's
yogurt Matt and I will be joining the
酸奶,马特和我将加入
students and giving up our devices for
学生们,放弃我们的设备
21 days too I I think we've signed up to
21 天,我想我们已经报名参加
the experiment because we're living it
实验,因为我们正在经历它,
yeah you know we're going through it
是的,你知道我们 我们和孩子们正在经历这一切,
with our kids and we have no idea how to
我们不知道该如何
navigate this and we're worried we're
应对,我们很担心,我们
scared everything we're seeing is
害怕我们看到的一切都是
negative but we don't know how to stop
不好的,但我们不知道该如何阻止
it our kids first had a phone when they
它,我们的孩子第一次有手机的时候 他们
went to secondary school didn't they
上过中学,是
yeah they're 11 it feels like everybody
的,他们 11 岁,感觉每个人
has one and they want one my older
都有一个,他们也想要一个,我的
two like I remember sitting on the couch
两个大孩子,我记得有一次坐在沙发上
once and the TV was playing we were all
,电视在播放,我们都
on our phone I was like oh this is not
在玩手机,我当时就想 这
good personally for me I wish that I'd
对我个人来说并不好,我希望我
never given them a
从来没有给他们
smartphone I feel like it's on us
智能手机,我觉得这是我们的责任,
because we should be the ones setting
因为我们应该是树立
the example shouldn't we yet we are also
榜样的人,不是吗?但我们也是
heavy phone
手机的重度
users it really feels like something
用户,这真的感觉
like this is really necessary now
就像 现在这真的很有必要,
especially cuz it feels like things are
尤其是因为感觉事情正在
escalating really quickly can we move
迅速升级,我们能不能
course slightly because this seems to be
稍微改变一下方向,因为这似乎正
heading for
走向
disaster stanway is your average
灾难 斯坦威是一所普通的
comprehensive school we Face the same
综合学校,我们面临着和全国
problems that every other school in the
其他学校一样的问题,
country is
facing it's sad when the kids talk about
当孩子们谈论“
oh all I did last night was I was just
我昨晚所做的就是
on Snapchat or Tik Tok until 1:00 in the
在 Snapchat 或 Tik Tok 上玩到凌晨 1 点”时,这很令人难过。
morning their lives are lived through
生活是通过
phones those kids 12 12 to 13 year olds
手机度过的,这些孩子 12 12 到 13 岁,
you're starting to expose to the
你开始接触
beginnings of an adult world how much is
成人世界的开端,
smartphones dictating their experience
智能手机对他们的经历有多大的影响,
you have access to quite harmful content
你只能接触到相当有害的内容,
onl bullying body image issues suicide
欺凌,身体形象问题,
encouragement sites and things like that
鼓励自杀的网站和其他东西 就像那样,
there are things that you would you not
有些事情你肯定不
want anywhere near a young
希望发生在年轻人身上,
person social media has had an impact on
社交媒体对
Mental Health at stanway there are more
心理健康产生了影响。在斯坦威,
and more kids becoming anxious and
越来越多的孩子变得焦虑,
almost anxious to the point where they
几乎焦虑到
can't attend school I've been in
无法上学的地步。 我从事
pastoral now for 6 years there was a
牧师职业已经 6 年了,
couple when I first started now you're
刚开始的时候有一对夫妇,现在
looking at two dozen per year
每年有二十几个
Group by guys do you want to come in
人,你们按组分组,你们想进来吗,
please find a space
请找个地方,
please I have like anxiety and it
我有点焦虑,就像
started like in secondary school and it
在中学开始的一样 学校,这真的
only like really happens at school and I
只发生在学校,我
also get like a panic attack
也得到 就像年初的恐慌发作一样,
at the start of the year I was having
我每天要经历
three a day right today's lesson right
三次,今天的课就是
first task you've got the fat pens Miss
第一个任务,你有粗笔,
Dayton will kill me if you use these on
如果你用这些笔,戴顿小姐会杀了我,
them don't use these I still get really
不要用这些,我仍然非常
really anxious at night and I get a lot
非常 晚上很焦虑,
of nightmares in the middle of the night
半夜经常做噩梦,
can someone else
有人能
write when I got my first phone I think
写一下我什么时候拿到第一部手机吗?我想
I was four and then I used my mom's
我是四岁的时候,然后我用我妈妈的
phone before that my phone new I think I
手机,在那之前我的手机是新的,我想我
think it was about 4 hours today but
想那是 今天是 4 个小时,但
before in some holidays it was nearly
以前有些节假日是将近
10: wow you guys are going for it I
10 个小时:哇,你们太努力了,我
would wake up every morning and have
每天早上醒来,
like 2,000 messages on my phone I think
手机上都会有大约 2,000 条消息,我想
the most messages I've had was like
我收到的最多消息是
3,000 just from one group chat I
来自一个群组的 3,000 条 聊天我
wouldn't say I'm addicted to it but it
不会说我沉迷于它,但它
is like one of my main
就像我的首要
priorities right guys can you take your
任务之一,对吧,伙计们,你能把
chairs under please when the bell rings
椅子拿下来吗,当铃声响起时,
it's quite exciting cuz I haven't been
这很令人兴奋,因为我没有
on my phone so it's like a moment of
用手机,所以就像一个 放松的时刻
relief just to go on
只是为了继续
it the stanway teachers are hoping the
下去斯坦威老师 希望
total phone ban will result in a number
全面禁止手机能使
of improvements in their students
学生的
learning a big thing for me is how it
学习成绩有所提高,对我来说,一个大问题是手机如何
affects their sleep and whether we no to
影响他们的睡眠,以及我们是否应该
start in school some of them their phone
在学校开始,他们中的一些人
use isn't monitored at all at home and
在家里根本不监控手机的使用情况,
they're up until 2 3:00 in the morning
他们要熬夜到凌晨两三点,
so I taught Jess last year very
所以去年我教杰西的时候她很
studious often put hand up you know are
用功,经常举手,你知道
things going to improve perhaps cuz she
情况会有所改善吗,也许因为她
doesn't have her phone in terms of
没有手机,所以
concentration lyan where you get a focus
注意力会集中
she works really hard but that Focus
她确实很努力,但这种专注力
kind of blows a little bit hot and
有点
cold the University of York research
忽冷忽热,约克大学的研究
team have designed a 21-day ban a
团队设计了一项为期 21 天的禁令,这是一个
sufficient time frame to see a
足够的时间框架,可以看到
difference in the students physical and
学生身心健康的差异,
mental
health all you need to do is press the
你需要做的就是
space bar when you see a number but not
当你看到数字时按空格键,但当
when it is a three
数字为 3 时不要按,
but before they can begin they have some
但在他们开始之前,他们必须完成一些
essential pre-ban testing to complete
必要的禁令前测试,
we'll be monitoring them before and
我们将在禁令前后对他们进行监控,
after but critically we'll also be
但至关重要的是,我们也会
monitoring them throughout the study
在整个过程中对他们进行监控 研究
itself minute by- minute fluctuations in
本身每分钟的波动,
things like well-being sleep brain
比如幸福感、睡眠、大脑
alertness and cognitive
警觉性和认知
abilities the students will be wearing
能力,学生们将佩戴
special SmartWatches to track their
特殊的智能手表来追踪 他们
biological responses to the experiment
对实验的生物反应
and an EEG will measure the cognitive
和脑电图将测量禁令对
effects of the ban on the brain
大脑认知的影响,
nothing can go wrong right like I can't
一切都不会出错,就像我不会
get electrocuted no no this total ban
触电一样,不,不,这项全面禁令
allows us to really push things to the
让我们真正把事情推向
extremes so essentially we'll be able to
极端,所以从本质上讲,我们' 我们将能够
reveal where the taking phone's away
揭示拿走手机会
wakes up the brain puts it in a better
唤醒大脑,使其处于更好的
state for positive well-being and
状态,有利于积极的幸福感和
learning with all the testing now
学习,明天所有的测试都
complete tomorrow a group of
完成了,一组
12-year-olds will have all their
12 岁的孩子将被
electronic devices locked away in this
锁起来所有的电子设备 在这个
box for 3
盒子里呆了三个
weeks what does Dr chaty hope this total
星期,Chaty 博士希望这个总的
bam will
bam 能
achieve hey how you doing to see thank
实现什么,嘿,你好吗,
you very much we are part of this
非常感谢,我们是这个实验的一部分,
experiment and one of the guinea pigs
和
along with the kids you are very much a
孩子们一起是豚鼠之一,你真是一个
man of science do you feel like we can
科学家 你觉得我们能
see a difference in 3 weeks I would be
在三周内看到变化吗?
very very surprised if we don't see
如果我们没有看到
improvements in things like sleep mood
睡眠、情绪和注意力等方面的改善,我会非常非常惊讶,
yeah and attention but you never know
但你永远不会知道,
until you test it one in four children
除非你测试它,
we think are using smartphones in an
我们认为四分之一的孩子在使用智能手机 以一种
addictive or compulsive Manner and
上瘾或强迫的方式,
what's really interesting is the studies
真正有趣的是
which have looked at this show that
研究这个节目的研究
they're losing gray matter what's gray
他们正在失去灰质,灰质是什么?
matter well gray matter is the part of
灰质是大脑的一部分,
the brain that's involved with things
它与
like processing information and our
处理信息和我们的
thinking really interestingly that
思考有关,非常有趣的是,这种
pattern is very similar to the pattern
模式与
we see in people with subst abuse or
我们在滥用药物或成瘾问题的人身上看到的模式非常相似
addiction
problems oh my God I've seen so many
哦 天哪,
teenage boys over the years come in they
这些年来,我看到很多十几岁的男孩进来,他们
can barely look at me in the eye and
几乎不敢看我的眼睛,
they're basically concerned about their
他们基本上担心自己
use of pornography so we know that one
接触色情内容,所以我们知道每
in 10 Nye olds have already seen
10 个奈伊老人中就有一个已经看过
pornography oh my God one in four 11y
色情内容,天哪 天哪,四分之一的 11
olds has seen
岁孩子看过
pornography wow yeah I mean I 9 years
色情内容,哇,是的,我的意思是我 9 岁,
old
so are these kids actively searching for
所以这些孩子是在主动寻找
porn or are they being served it we know
色情内容还是被提供色情内容,我们知道,
that particularly with most young boys
特别是大多数年轻男孩
the first time they access pornography
第一次接触色情内容时,
they've not searched it out it's popping
他们并没有搜索过 它的出现
up that is mindblowing we've got some
令人震惊,我们进行了一些
research which is showing us that if
研究,结果表明,如果
you're a firsttime user and you go on
你是第一次访问
one of the world's most popular
世界上最受欢迎的
pornography sites you will be exposed to
色情网站之一,你将接触到
non-consent ual sex acts or violence so
非自愿性行为或 暴力,所以
a child goes on a porn site for the
孩子去色情网站
first time and they will see
第一次,他们会看到
non-consensual sex and violence
非自愿性行为和暴力,
yeah and because there's no proof of
是的,因为没有证据证明
what your real age is you can just put
你的真实年龄,你可以随便填上
any old age and you can get on that site
任何年龄,然后你就可以上那个网站了,
yeah that's terrifying I mean that's
是的,这很可怕,我的意思是这很
terrifying I know there were parental
可怕,我知道有父母
controls but it's not always easy for
控制,但对他们来说,并不总是那么容易
them all to put on the parental controls
实施家长控制,
know how to
知道如何
do you know what I mean I wouldn't even
做,你知道我的意思,我甚至不
know how to put an age restriction on
知道如何在你的互联网上设置年龄限制,
your internet I thought you'd done it on
我以为你已经在他们的设备上这样做了,
their devices no I didn't know how to do
不 我不知道如何
it on their devices I think you can do
在他们的设备上做到这一点,我认为你可以
it with your internet supplier don't say
与你的互联网供应商一起做到这一点,不要
that because I'm the one who sorted all
这么说,因为我是那个整理所有
the phones out you said that you were
手机的人,你说你把
putting them on their
它们放在他们的
devices did I yes no no because I I put
设备上了 是的,不,不,因为我把
I put um age restrictions on like
年龄限制放在了
fortnite and things like that and I
堡垒之夜之类的东西上,我
don't know I'll sort it out
不知道我会解决的,
bloody
该死的
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h i mean my brain is fried that was
嗨,我的意思是我的大脑被炸了,
really intense after that and I can't
那之后真的很紧张,我可以 '
help but like one feel like I'm failing
不禁像一个人一样觉得我
as a
作为一个
parent when it comes to online use and
父母失败了 说到网络使用,
those statistics for porn have literally
那些色情统计数据真的
made me want to run home and check
让我想跑回家检查
everything
一切,
I think it just kind of Spurs you on
我认为这只是有点刺激你,
doesn't it it's about going look this is
不是吗?这是关于去看看这是
a real problem yeah and we can ignore it
一个真正的问题,是的,我们可以忽略它
for a while and hope for the best or we
一段时间 同时,我们也希望看到最好的结果,或者我们
can start doing something about it now
现在就可以开始做一些事情
and
,
hopefully something that can create a
希望这些事情能够引发
bigger conversation and bigger
更广泛的讨论,带来更大的
change we've heard from the experts how
变化。我们已经从专家那里听说了
smartphones are affecting our kids but I
智能手机如何影响我们的孩子,但我
want to hear firsthand what the stanway
想亲耳听听 斯坦威的
students think I haven't been on a
学生认为我已经
school bus for years I haven't been on a
很多年没有坐过校车了我已经
bus for years you get a school bus I
很多年没有坐过校车了你有校车
used to get a school bus yeah is it this
吗我以前坐过校车是的就是这辆
one find a seat Jessica is one of the
找个座位杰西卡是其中之一
students taking part in the phone ban
with
us how are you feeling about the
我们一起参加手机禁令的学生你对这个实验有什么感觉
experiment I'm still quite shocked I
我仍然很震惊我
actually like signed uped that I've
实际上喜欢注册我已经
agreed to do it do you use your phone
同意这样做你
much at school what are the rules phones
在学校经常使用手机吗手机的规则是什么
would not be seen not be heard anything
被看到,但听不到任何东西,
they are then they'll be confiscated and
那么它们就会被没收,
you have to go and collect them at the
你必须在
end of the day and how many kids follow
一天结束时去收集它们, 有多少孩子遵守
those rules
这些规则
10 hello oh is that the Dan time at
10 你好哦那是学校里的丹时间是的
school yes I'm Emma hello Emma Jenny hi
我是艾玛你好艾玛珍妮嗨
Jenny nice to meet
珍妮很高兴认识
you how old were you when you first got
你你第一次使用
social media I think it was 10 I got it
社交媒体时多大我想是 10 我
on my 10th birthday right and what did
在我的 10 岁生日,
you get I got Tik Tok how did you feel
你得到了什么?我得到了 Tik Tok。你得到 Tik Tok 的感觉如何?
getting Tik Tok at first it was like a
一开始,它就像是一种
really nice sort of sense of community
很好的社区意识,
cuz like oh these people like what I
因为这些人喜欢我
like and then I got closer with this
喜欢的东西,然后我和这个女孩的关系更亲密了,
girl she starts asking me some funny
她 开始问我一些有趣的
questions like in an inappropriate way
问题,比如以一种不恰当的方式
or just in a way where things start to
,或者以一种开始让人
not make sense like oh um what's in your
无法理解的方式,比如你的相册里有什么,
photo albums and just like really
还有一些非常
personal things that no one you wouldn't
私人的事情,没有人
want to really share that online I
愿意在网上分享 我
answered a lot of her questions and then
回答了她很多问题,但
eventually it got something where I
最后我发现有些事情
thought this isn't right it's not right
不对劲,
so I thought oh no sorry I've got to go
所以我想,哦不,对不起,我得走了,
and she was saying oh no I need you to
她说,哦不,我需要你
stay here with me and it was like
留在这里陪我 就像是在
pressuring me almost into staying and I
逼我留下来,我
remember one time I was in the bath and
记得有一次我 在浴缸里,
because I was so concerned about this
因为我太担心这个
person cuz I thought she was real I had
人了,因为我认为她是真实的,所以我把
my phone like next to me in the bath
手机放在浴缸旁边,
making sure she was okay and then I go
确保她没事,然后
back on to tick tock the next day and
第二天我又继续滴答滴答,
she's made a fullblown hate page and
她已经 完全的仇恨页面,
that's what got made for me as as a
这就是我作为一个
10-year-old I was so
10 岁孩子所做的事情,我非常
upset even people in the comment section
沮丧,甚至评论区的人
were saying she's only a little girl
都说她只是个小女孩,
what has she possibly done that's what
她可能做了什么,这就是
made me I put everything down for 2
让我放下一切的原因
years did you ever find out who it
几年后你才知道
was all I can remember is that one time
是谁,我只记得有一次
I was on a FaceTime call M and um she
我和 M 在 FaceTime 上通话,她
was showing me like her screen on her
向我展示了她的
iPad and and um her iPad suddenly died
iPad 屏幕,然后她的 iPad 突然死机了,
so it went like black and in the
屏幕变黑了
reflection I could see someone holding a
从镜子里我可以看到有人拿着
phone who definitely wasn't an
手机,他肯定不是一个
11-year-old girl I don't know if it was
11岁的女孩,我不知道他是
a man or a woman I suspected it was a
男是女,我怀疑他是
man it's awful Isn't
男的,太可怕了,不是
it I mean it absolutely terrifies me as
吗,我是说绝对 作为
a mom of kids your age how much do you
你这个年龄孩子的妈妈,我感到很害怕,你
think that your mental health was
认为你的心理健康
affected when that happened I wasn't
受到了多大的影响? 那天
getting enough sleep at night I was
晚上我睡不够,我
worrying that something was going to
担心会发生什么事,
happen I may me feel a bit stupid cuz I
我觉得自己有点愚蠢,因为我
was sort of thinking to myself how did I
心里想着我怎么会
fall for this and especially you with
陷入这种境地,尤其是你
10 isn't that awful that you're thinking
10 岁的时候,不是吗 太糟糕了,你竟然认为
that it's your
这是你的
fault so I'm I'm so
错,所以我很
sorry that conversation with Jess has
抱歉,与杰西的谈话让
left my head all over the place people
我的思绪混乱,人们
posing as young kids to make friends and
假扮成小孩来交朋友,而
you really not knowing who you're
你真的不知道你是谁。
talking to that was my biggest fear
谈论这个是我进入这个领域最大的恐惧,
coming into this that was what I thought
我认为
you know the dark parts of social media
社交媒体的阴暗面
were and even though we're at the
,尽管我们才刚刚
beginning you know it's becoming very
开始,但
aware very
很快就意识到
quickly that there's a whole host of
有很多
going on that you think you know
糟糕的事情正在发生 作为家长,你认为你了解这一点,
going on that you think you know
about as a parent
but you really haven't got a
但你真的没有一点
clue can you go off the bike
线索,你能下车吗,
please it's the morning of the phone ban
拜托,今天是手机禁令的早晨,
good morning can you s that player WR
早上好,你能帮我把那个球员 WR
for me
换成我
please I think you're not there last
吗 我想你上周没来,
week I think you're going to ask us a
我想你会问我们
minute I'm not really looking forward to
一下,我 我真的不想
give up my phone so nervous I don't know
放弃我的手机,所以很紧张,我不知道
what this thing's going to be like I
事情会变成什么样,我
think my body's telling me that it's
想我的身体告诉我事情
going to be bad just strange sign that
会很糟糕,只是奇怪的迹象表明
it could be
事情可能会很
bad I can't believe I'm not going to
糟糕,我不敢相信我 我将
have my phone for 3 weeks it's going to
在 3 周内不用手机,就像
be like in the olden days
以前一样,
yeah I'm already quite excited about not
是的,我已经很兴奋不再
receiving phone calls from certain
接到某些
people and not a WhatsApp going off that
人的电话,也不会收到 WhatsApp 的提醒,
then I think about till 4 in the morning
然后我会一直想着,直到凌晨 4 点
oh my God what am I going to do about
哦天哪我该怎么办
that that's quite exciting yeah yeah
这真是太令人兴奋了是
everything else about it is
的一切都很
awful I reckon in the first like week or
糟糕我想在第一周或
few days I'll be like give me my phone
几天我会把我的手机
back but um yeah you're not going to do
还给我但是嗯是的你不会去 做得
well and there's no
很好,而且没有
way this is going and because this is
办法,因为这是这样的,
going I'm replacing it with
我用这个来代替它,
this a brick Pham for emergencies a CD
一块砖头 Pham,以备紧急情况,一个 CD
player and headphones I actually
播放器和耳机,我实际上
realized that the only CDs I have are my
意识到我唯一的 CD 是我
own so so I won't be packing those once
自己的,所以我不会 一旦这一切结束,我就会收拾这些东西,
this goes that's
it I've got to be honest I'm quite
我必须说实话,我很
worried about my phone use the word
担心 关于我的手机使用,
Addiction gets battered around quite a
lot when it comes to phones and I found
当谈到手机时,“上瘾”这个词被反复提及,我发现
that a bit weird from someone who is a
对于一个
recovering drug
正在康复的吸毒
addict but when I think about it I am
成瘾者来说,这有点奇怪,但当我考虑这个问题时,我
addicted to my phone because when I'm
沉迷于我的手机,因为当我
without it I crave it when and I'm not
没有它,当我没有服用它时,我渴望
on it I think about it it's only 21 days
它,我想它只有 21 天,
if anyone needs to get hold of me
如果有人需要联系我,
they'll get hold of me I act the same
他们会联系我,我
way about this device as I have about
对这个设备的态度与我对
substances in the past I mean now and
物质的态度相同 过去,我的意思是现在和
ever right pending
将来,
do we
如果我们
don't come on
不
quickly one in five students in school
快点来,五分之一的学生在
are spending more time on their phone
手机上花费的时间
than they are on their education that's
比在教育上花费的时间还多,这是
a ratio we need to
我们需要
readdress I'll hold your hand thanks
重新解决的比例,我会牵着你的手,谢谢
don't worry I brought you back thanks
别担心,我把你带回来了,
very much I appreciate
非常感谢,我很感激,
it have you seen that thing the cube
你看到那个东西了吗,那个立方体,
that TV program that looks like the box
那个电视节目,看起来像一个盒子,
but if the box is Tiny at least my
但如果盒子很小,至少我的
phone's like being treat yeah hello hi
手机就像被对待一样,是的,你好,
how you
feeling fine you look nervous are you
你感觉怎么样 看起来很紧张 你
nervous okay it's finally here yeah no
紧张吗 好吧 它终于来了 是的 不
yep it's happening guys it's happening
是的 它正在发生 伙计们 它正在发生
few shaking of the heads right this is
几个摇头,对吧,这是
21 days right with no smartphones there
21 天,没有智能手机,
is no access to iPads no access to
没有 iPad,没有
laptops unless it is for school purposes
笔记本电脑,除非是为了学校的目的,
so this is where you say goodbye to
所以这是你告别滚动的地方,
scrolling
oh no that's my
哦不,这就是我的
life you feel like I'm the bearer of bad
生活,你觉得我 坏消息的传播者
news absolutely you say goodbye to
绝对是你们告别
social media what and probably most
社交媒体什么的,对你们来说,可能最
importantly for you lot you are going to
重要的是你们要
say goodbye to your Snapchat
告别你们的 Snapchat
[Applause]
[掌声]
streak I bet you're all thinking why on
连胜我敢打赌你们都在想我们
Earth are we doing this right yeah yeah
到底为什么要这样做 是的,是的,
we're we're also feeling the same
我们也有同样的感受,
because we are doing it as well yeah
因为我们也在这样做,是的,
which is terrifying how are you all
这很可怕,你们感觉怎么样,
feeling I'm looking forward to getting
我期待着拿回
my phone
我的手机,
back okay so listen now is your time if
好的,听着,现在是你的时间,如果
you want to to send any last Snapchat
你想 发送任何最后的 Snapchat
Tik toks
Tik toks
messages are you actually doing I'm
消息你实际上在做什么我也在
doing one too Scarlet you're up first hi
做一个 Scarlet 你先起来嗨
Scarlet Hi how are you feeling scared
Scarlet 嗨你感觉怎么样害怕
what are you going to miss the most
你最想念
about your smartphone oh like loads like
你的智能手机的什么哦就像
Tik Tok Snapchat everything yeah I love
Tik Tok Snapchat 一样 一切是的 我爱
my phone can I say bye yeah love you
我的手机,我可以说再见吗,是的,爱你,
I'll miss you see you soon well done
我会想念你的,很快见到你,干得好,
well
干得好,
done Harry W oh boy
哈利 W,哦天哪,
well done yes Harry how does it feel
干得好,是的,哈利,感觉怎么样,
horrible Theo what is the one thing you
可怕吗,西奥,你认为你会想念的一件事是什么
think you're going to miss the most my
我最常使用的
phone cuz I just won't have anything to
手机是因为我没什么
do since the dawn of time kids didn't
可做的,因为从小孩子们就
have phones I don't know how they coped
没有手机,我不知道他们是如何应对的,
but I think the kids are going to find
但我认为孩子们会发现
not having their phones hard I think
没有手机很难,我认为
that you'll probably find that some
你可能会发现,有些人
where their lives revolve around it
的生活都围绕着它,
they're going to find it near too
他们会发现这几乎是
impossible how you feel Lana a little
不可能的,你的感受是这样的,拉娜,
bit sad a little bit sad My Life yeah
有点难过,有点难过,我的生活,是
yeah I'm actually to be really excited
的,我真的很兴奋,
are you great I sort of feel like it's
你很棒吗 我感觉好像
going to be like a weight off my
我的肩上卸下了一块重担,是的,
shoulders almost yes yeah absolutely oh
当然,哦,
miles is going straight for the drop how
迈尔斯直接去掉了,
you feeling miles fine I nearly gave up
你感觉怎么样,迈尔斯,我差点就放弃了,
cuz my dad did it without me asking oh
因为我爸爸没有问我就做了,哦,
what he signed up for you without you
他报名了什么 你不
knowing yeah I'm doing it now cuz I get
知道吗是的我现在正在做这件事因为我
five quid a day so oh do
每天能得到五英镑所以哦
you that's a good deal win it's a
你觉得这是一个很好的交易 赢了,这是
winwin you feeling all right no come on
双赢,你感觉还好吗,不来吧,
Isaac pop it in
艾萨克,把它放进去,是
y yes well up mate and it goes well done
的,好起来,伙计,做得很好,
thank you well done right teachers what
谢谢你,做得好,老师们,
is there a lot of stuff in there is
里面有很多东西,是
yeah Alex happy come mate I'm kind of
的,亚历克斯很高兴来吧,伙计,我很善良
doing it for me but also to set a bit of
为我做这件事,同时也树立一个
an example and be a bit of a role model
榜样,成为他们的模范,
because I hope they know that I'm going
因为我希望他们知道,我也会
to find it just as hard as them
发现这和他们一样困难。
y I think we're done no I'm literally
我想我们已经完成了,不是吗? 我实际上
like a it in come on
就像一个它进来
Matt see you soon he with you
马特很快见到你他和你一起
Scarlet well done
斯嘉丽干得好
guys so this is the big
伙计们所以这是伟大的
moment do it do
时刻做吧做
it here we go and it's locked the
吧我们开始吧它被锁定
experiment has begun guys good
实验已经开始伙计们祝你
luck how did you feel the moment you saw
好运你感觉如何 当你看到
your phone go into the box traumatized
你的手机被放进盒子里的那一刻,我感到很震惊,
like it's finally happened oh my god
就像它终于发生了一样,哦,天哪,
I've just put my my life in there it's
我刚刚把我的生命放在那里,它
completely gone a bit dramatic but
完全消失了,有点戏剧性,但
no today was good but also really scary
不,今天很好,但也真的很可怕,
cuz like I tapped my pocket and I
因为我拍了拍我的口袋,我 我
thought oh my God where's my phone gone
想天哪我的手机去哪了
I wish that I could just click my
我希望我可以打个响
fingers and it's all over so sad that
指 一切都结束了,我很难过,
I've got to leave it I'm I'm too I'm too
我必须离开它,我太难过了,
sad to
cry hello hi hi wow there's lots of you
哭不出来,你好,嗨,哇,那里有很多人,
there lots of you you're right hi
你们很多人,你说得对,
everyone we know the students have found
大家好,我们认识 学生们发现
parting with their beloved devic is
与他们心爱的设备分开是
difficult but do their parents have any
困难的,但他们的父母
concerns about the experiment
对这个实验有什么担忧吗?
I mean I really don't know how Harry's
我的意思是,说实话,我真的不知道哈利在
going to cope without his phone for 3
没有手机的情况下要如何度过
weeks if I'm honest but it' be nice to
三周,但这会很好
interact with Harry more cuz he's
与哈利互动更多,因为他
constantly glued to a to a
一直盯着
screen Scarlett came home yesterday and
屏幕斯嘉丽昨天回家
said about how long she spent on her
说她花在手机上的时间
phone it was like 9 hours and I was
有9个小时,我感到
absolutely mortified we want her to get
非常尴尬,我们希望她能
the art of conversation again face to
再次面对面地掌握谈话的艺术
face rather than it being on a
脸而不是在
device thank you so much not just for
设备上非常感谢你
coming here today also for handing over
今天来到这里也把
your
你的
children we are not
孩子交给我们我们不是在
babysitting excited apprehensive bit
照顾孩子兴奋担心有点
both bit of both okay well listen guys
两者兼而有之好吧听着伙计们
yes I'm a doctor but I'm also a dad
是的我是一名医生但我也是 我觉得
there's nothing here about making people
这里没有什么让人
feel bad I think we're all trying to do
感觉不好的事情 我们都试图
our best right in a brand new world that
在一个全新的世界里做到最好,
frankly we didn't grow up with we're
坦白地说,我们不是在这个世界中长大的,我们
never going back right these devices are
永远不会回到过去,这些设备已经存在,
here and they're here to stay it's
而且会一直存在,这
really a question which ask ects of this
确实是一个问题,需要问 这些
modern technology are enhancing Our
现代技术正在改善我们的
Lives which aspects are actually harming
生活,哪些方面实际上正在伤害
us and potentially affecting our brains
我们,并可能影响我们的大脑
and our
bodies I don't know about you but I love
身体。我不知道你是怎么想的,但我喜欢
a tracking app yeah we 360 our kids
一个跟踪应用程序,是的,我们随时随地都在 360 度地关注我们的孩子,
everywhere all the time and I want them
我希望他们
to have a phone because I want them to
有一个 电话,因为我希望他们
be able to call me in an emergency or
能够在紧急情况下打电话给我,
vice versa the main consideration I have
反之亦然。我主要考虑的是
is how I going to know where Harry is is
如何知道哈利在哪里,
he going to be safe will he be waiting
他会安全吗,他会在
where I need to pick him up at the end
我需要接他的地方等我吗?
of the day because Norm you to pick up
一天结束时,因为 Norm 你拿起
your phone and you call them so it's
手机给他们打电话,所以
nice to know that other people had the
很高兴知道其他人也有
same apprehensions as I do how many of
同样的担忧,就像我一样,
your kids when you take their devices
当你拿走他们的设备时,有多少你的孩子会
away say I'm bored well I've had this I
说我很无聊,好吧,我 我
said um I don't know let's get some
说我不知道,我们来玩一些
board games out that's boring boredom is
无聊的棋盘游戏吧 无聊
actually really good for us you have to
其实对我们很有好处,你必须
be able to sit with your own feelings
能够静下心来感受自己的感受
and if you can't do that I think you are
,如果你做不到这一点,我认为你正在为
setting up a whole host of potential
future problems these devices are so
未来设置一大堆潜在的问题,这些设备太
tempting most things are boring next to
诱人了,大多数东西相比之下都很无聊
a small smart phone what are you hoping
一部小型智能手机 你希望
to see happen during this experiment
在这次实验中看到什么?
just kind of get to get my child back a
只是让我的孩子恢复
bit cuz he's just always got his head on
一点,因为他总是沉迷于
YouTube you feel like you've lost him a
YouTube 你觉得你有点失去了他 是的,
bit Yeah because when he get banned from
因为当他被禁止时
it and you take things away then you get
从中你拿走一些东西然后你又把
your child back again you get that
你的孩子带回来你得到了那种
interaction yeah yeah but yeah it' be
互动是的,是的,但是是的,让
nice to have him
他
back there must be a way where we can
回来会很好一定有一种方法可以让我们
have technology in our lives without it
在生活中没有技术就可以拥有它,
kids there must be yeah
孩子们一定有是的
I hope you will get them back yeah
我希望你们能把他们找回来,是的,
thanks cheers thanks
谢谢,干杯,谢谢
guys I could have stayed and talked to
大家,我可以留下来和
them all night long absolutely you know
他们聊一整晚,你知道
it made me feel quite relieved yeah you
这让我感到很欣慰,是的,你
know cuz we're not the only ones yeah we
知道,因为我们不是唯一的,是的,我们
all love our kids and we're all just
都爱我们的孩子, 我们都只是
trying to do the best for our kids yeah
想为孩子们做最好的事情,
totally and we've all made mistakes and
我们都犯过错误,
also we don't have all the answers but
我们也没有所有的答案,但
the answers we do have seem to be
我们知道答案 似乎在
screaming at us and hopefully this
对我们大喊大叫,希望这个
experiment will give us a lot more
实验能给我们提供更多
information I'm
信息我很
excited
兴奋
excited Matt and I are taking part in a
兴奋马特和我正在参加一项
smartphone ban experiment with
智能手机禁令实验,实验对象是
12-year-old students from the stanway
来自埃塞克斯斯坦威学校的 12 岁学生
school in Essex I can barely work this
我几乎不能这样做,
right there we go it's our first evening
这是我们第一次
without our
没有
devices the children have been given
设备,孩子们被给予
cameras to record personal Diaries why
相机来记录个人日记,
do you have to record this again because
你为什么必须再次记录这个,因为
we're keeping a a diary to monitor how
我们在写日记来监控
you're feeling
你的感受
about about being without your phone
没有手机
it's like taking everything that you
就像把你
find fun and that you do away from you
觉得好玩的东西和你做的事情都拿走了
for 21 days it's
21 天,这很
annoying it's about half sevenish at the
烦人,现在大约是七点半左右
minute and um I've sort of run out of
,嗯,
things to do I feel like at this point
我感觉现在没什么事可做了
I'm already bored out of my mind the
我已经无聊透顶了,
last Resort is me having to read a book
最后的办法就是读一本书,
so that will be fun I haven't read an
这样会很有趣,我已经有四个月没有读过
actual book in like what like 4 months
真正的书了,
so um yay I keep going to reach for my
所以嗯,我继续伸手去拿
phone and realize I don't have it but
手机 意识到我没有,但
other than that it's going pretty well
除此之外一切都很好 好吧,
I'd say so now I'm going to go to
我现在要去
bed I'm sure you're supposed to use
睡觉了,我相信你应该用
something else but spit
别的东西,但吐痰
this is working really
这个效果
well em and I are getting ready for our
很好,我正准备迎接我们的
first evening and red carpet event
第一个夜晚 和
without a
smartphone how are you finding it babe
智能手机的红地毯活动你觉得怎么样宝贝
I've had anxiety all day
我整天都很焦虑是的
yeah and all day I feel like I haven't
整天我都觉得我没有
breathed properly
正常呼吸
because I feel out of control of my life
因为我觉得失去了对我生活的控制我的
I mean I felt it on your bed I felt
意思是我在你的床上感觉到了它 我觉得
really cough
很咳嗽,
yeah so when the kids talk
是的,所以当孩子们
about like that's how they
谈论他们
socialize I kind of get what they're
社交的方式时,我有点明白他们在
saying cuz I I feel isolated I feel
说什么,因为我感到孤立,我感到
isolated and like I'm not in control of
孤立,好像我不再能控制
my own life
自己的生活
anymore how is it phone free Nas phone
了,怎么能不用手机呢 Nas 手机
free Nas it's great you nervous about
免费 Nas 很棒你很紧张你是
what do you mean about from a Fame point
什么意思从名望的
of view if you win and you're not going
角度来看如果你赢了你不会
to be
look at all these phones around know
看看周围所有这些手机知道
have to bring a phone fingers crossed up
必须带上手机手指交叉
the take a
picture we survived our first smartphone
拍照 我们度过了第一个没有智能手机的
free
night but how are the kid' boredom
夜晚,但孩子们
levels this morning did Mr pH did you
今早的无聊程度如何?pH 先生,你
wake up thinking about that har yeah so
醒了吗 想想那个哈,是的,那么
how I you going to feel your time I
我会如何感受你的时间我
don't know maybe sit there board
不知道也许坐在那里
stiff but a little way to go here how
僵硬但还有一点路要走这里
you I might be able not to manage to for
你我可能无法管理
21 days what number do you want that to
21天你想要什么数字 那么
say then 21
说 21
21 how long do you think you'll last
21 你觉得你能坚持多久
well maybe a good couple of days bye
好吧 也许好几天
bye dude take your Shir in please thank
再见 兄弟 请把你的 Shir 带进来 谢谢
you do you know what I really struggled
你知道我昨晚真的很挣扎吗
last night I got to the end of the day
我到了一天的结束
and I was like oh I haven't got my phone
我当时想,哦,我没有带手机,
so I'd felt a little bit lonely to be
所以我感觉有点孤独,说
honest I do actually need I take some of
实话,我确实需要带上一些
those a couple of students in my year
eight class I've just taught gave their
phones up yesterday and I asked how they
手机,我刚刚教过的八年级班上的几个学生放弃了他们的手机 昨天,我问他们如何
were coping didn't want to talk about it
应对,我不想谈论这件事,现在是
it's early in the morning but they seem
凌晨,但他们似乎
to have got through their first night I
已经度过了第一晚,我
wonder whether when it after a couple of
想知道几天后
days and they their friends are talking
他们的朋友是否在
about things that they've not seen yet
谈论这些事情 他们还没有
on Tik Tok
在 Tik Tok 上看到过,
they might begin to notice a bit more
他们可能会开始注意到更多,
bless
祝福
them Tik Tok is the most popular social
他们 Tik Tok 是最受欢迎的 Tik Tok 是
media platform for kids in the UK
英国
between the ages of 4 and 18 years old
4 岁至 18 岁儿童使用的社交媒体平台,
on Tik Tok I spend like 3 hours a day I
我每天在 Tik Tok 上花费的时间约为 3 个小时,我
could probably be on Snapchat and Tik
可能在 Snapchat 和 Tik
Tok for around 7 to8 hours the video
Tok 上花费的时间约为 7 到 8 个小时,视频
sharing social media platform is more
共享社交媒体平台更
popular with children here than any
受欢迎 这里的孩子比
other part of the world and is typically
世界上任何其他地方的孩子都多,而且
viewed for more than 2 hours a
每天观看的时间通常超过 2 个小时,
day this is going to be interesting our
这将会很有趣,我们的
kids are constantly asking if they can
孩子经常问他们是否可以
have Tik Tok on their devices
在他们的设备上使用 Tik Tok,
start English so em and I have been
开始使用英语,所以我和 em
given two brand new phones to conduct a
得到了 两部全新的手机进行一个
mini experiment we'll be posing as
小实验,我们将扮演
13-year-old firsttime users to see what
13 岁的首次用户,看看
content we're served we're also going to
我们能得到什么内容,我们还将
set these up with brand new email
为这些手机设置全新的电子邮件
addresses It's Just Pure Clean Slate a
地址,这只是纯粹的清洁石板
pure Blank Slate yeah
pure Blank Slate 是的,
Emer and I were given expert advice on
Emer 和我得到了专家关于
how to conduct this mini
如何进行这个小
experiment so to use Tik Tok you need to
实验的建议,所以要使用 Tik Tok,你需要
enter your birth date right so this
输入你的出生日期,这
means that they'll see how old you are
意味着他们会知道你的年龄,
and customize your experience based on
并根据你的年龄定制你的体验
your age is what they're
年龄就是他们
saying the first video I've got is
说的,我得到的第一个视频是
police fans going down the street I've
警察粉丝们 在街上我
got a girl pouting and eating
有一个女孩撅着嘴吃着
strawberries you're getting lots of
草莓你有很多
roller coasters I've got that
过山车我有
Supermarket one that you got yeah I'm
你在超市买的那个是的我
getting so many roller coasters police
有这么多过山车警察
smash front daughter arrest riots I
粉碎前线女儿逮捕暴乱我
suspect I've got a baby rat sized
怀疑我' 我有一只小老鼠大小的
spiders I've got something about best
蜘蛛,我有关于最好的
friends oh someone making some kind of
朋友的东西,哦,有人在做某种
pudding at the minute I've had nothing
布丁,此刻我没有什么让
that scares me I mean I'm getting a lot
我害怕的,我的意思是我收到了很多
of like disaster videos it seems to be
像灾难视频,似乎
getting more
越来越
targeted over the next 4 hours a
在接下来的 4 个小时内,
producer scrolled through both phones as
制作人像孩子一样浏览两部手机,
a child might viewing and saving content
查看和保存内容,
which will have fed an algorithm that
这些内容将输入算法,
then recommends similar videos oh my
然后推荐类似的视频,
God the video to this is this is
天哪,这个视频
Minecraft this is a Minecraft video this
是 Minecraft,这是一个 Minecraft 视频,这
is my RO plays and a
是 我的 RO 播放了一段
911 recording of a man beating his wife
911 录音,一个男人殴打他的妻子
and the daughter screaming for help and
,女儿尖叫着寻求帮助,
look if you like it you see part two so
如果你喜欢的话,你可以看第二部分,
you find out what Happ like for part two
你会发现 Happ 喜欢第二部分,
what are you getting I'm just getting
你得到了什么,我只是得到了
girls she's not herself right now head
女孩,她是 现在不是她自己,头脑
doesn't know how to feel she's reached
不知道如何感受她 达到了
her breaking point oh my God does anyone
她的极限哦天哪有没有
else understand that there is no point
人明白夜晚是没有意义的
in
night what this is some young girl if I
这是一个年轻的女孩如果我
don't make it past 18 I want this song
活不过18岁我希望这首歌
played at my funeral Jesus
在我的葬礼上播放
Christ if the voices win just know I
耶稣基督如果声音赢了就知道我
love
爱
you I mean I don't know what to think
你,我的意思是我不知道该怎么想
about this that it just seems
这件事,这件事看起来
so
太
dark within Just 4 hours two supposed
黑暗了,在短短的4个小时内,两个所谓的
13-year-olds were served numerous videos
13岁孩子收到了无数的视频,这些视频都
featuring suicide ideation and extreme
涉及自杀意念和极端
violence how is this allowed to
暴力,怎么能允许这种事情
happen it's just not what I thought it
发生呢?这是不可能的 我认为
was yeah I mean I know you hear stories
是的,我的意思是我知道你听说过
about what can be found on there but
关于在那里可以找到什么的故事,但
finding and searching for something is
找到和搜索某样东西与
very different to it being served to you
你 13 岁时第一次去那里得到的服务非常不同 我
the first time you go on there as a
13-year-old I mean surely if you put in
的意思是,如果你
your age at the beginning they should
在开头写上你的年龄,他们应该会给
send you age appropriate
你发送适合你年龄的
videos I'd be worried about our kids
视频,我担心我们的孩子会
consuming this stuff I mean there's not
消费这些东西,我的意思是
a
chance not a chance are they having it
他们不可能有这些东西,
no
不,
we're three days into the smartphone ban
我们已经进入了三天 智能手机禁令
experiment are you actually going to
实验你真的要
come on the swing with me or you just
和我一起荡秋千吗,或者你只是
going to like hit weeds and despite some
喜欢打杂草,尽管有些
early wobbles no students have given up
早期 摇摆不定没有学生
on the experiment though they are
放弃实验,尽管他们正在
struggling to fill their time I still
努力填补他们的时间我仍然
don't understand how you can find this
不明白你怎么能从
much entertainment out of a stick
一根棍子中找到这么多的娱乐
can't know isn't it when we're not
不知道不是吗当我们不是
playing with him he's just
和他一起玩,
like and it's just repe oh it's constant
他就像在重复,哦,这是持续不断的
the noise is
噪音就是
just how you feeling today still a bit
你今天的感受,仍然有点
nervous are you it's not over yet we
紧张,它还没有结束,我们
still got quite a few days to go yeah
还有好几天的时间,是的,
how any messages do you guys think
你们觉得你们有什么消息吗
you'll have when you get your phone back
? 当你拿回手机时,
I have 300 a
我有 300 个
daddy started reading again which is
爸爸开始再次阅读,这
really nice have started doing it on the
真的很好,已经开始在
bus and usually I just sort of put my
公交车上阅读,通常我只是
earbuds in and have like some music on
戴上耳机,听听音乐
and I wouldn't really talk to anyone but
,我不会说话 对任何人来说,但
I'm talking to my friends a bit more now
我现在在公交车上和朋友们聊得更多了,
on the
bus we've seen and heard some of the
我们看到和听到
shocking content our kids can access on
我们的孩子可以在智能手机上访问的一些令人震惊的内容,
their smartphones but as parents there's
但作为父母,
only so much you can do to protect them
你能做的只有这么多来保护他们
we're off to meet Jenna a mom from
。 去见詹娜,她是康沃尔郡的一位母亲,
Cornwall who has experienced every
经历了每个
parents worst nightmare Jenna would you
父母最可怕的噩梦 Jenna,你能
tell tell us about Bradley what was he
告诉我们关于 Bradley 的事情吗?他是什么
like he was amazing I know every mom
样的人,他很棒,我知道每个妈妈都会
says that about their son but he was he
这样评价自己的儿子,但他确实很有
was such a character yeah he had an
个性,他有
amazing sense of humor everybody that
很棒的幽默感,每个
met him just fell in love with him
见过他的人都会爱上他
really a home body yeah absolutely we
真的很居家,是的,我们
got some of
有一些,
them yeah you got some photos of Bradley
是的,你有一些布拉德利的照片,
right yeah have a look yeah thanks some
是的,看看,是的,谢谢,
of his many maths awards that he got he
他获得的许多数学奖项,他
so smart yeah honestly looks really
很聪明,是的,老实说,看起来真的很
happy he looks gentle he does that's the
高兴,他看起来很温柔,这是
last pick I've got of me and him so that
最后一个 我选了我和他的,那
was Christmas and then he died in the
是圣诞节,然后他在一月份去世了,
January so that's just week like three
那只是三周前的一个星期,
weeks before
wow just sing a Christmas song how was
哇,唱一首圣诞歌,
Bradley when he got a
布拉德利得到
smartphone um he was 11 I think he was
智能手机时是怎样的,我想他当时 11 岁
in your seven yeah and he just used it
在你的七个中,是的,他只是用它
for YouTube videos and to do a bit of
来观看 YouTube 视频,并进行一些
Googling that sort of thing if ever he
谷歌搜索之类的事情,如果他
saw something that wasn't quite right
发现一些不太正确的东西,
would he tell
他会告诉
you there was um a YouTube video of a
你有一个 YouTuber 的 YouTube 视频
YouTuber that had gone into an actual
已经 进入一个真正的
Japanese suicide
日本自杀
forest and it had some quite graphic
森林,上面有一些
images on
it of actual suicides so he'd seen he'
真实的自杀图片,所以他看到了 他
seen that
看到了,
well after he'd seen that did you see a
你觉得
difference in him he was probably a bit
他有什么不同吗?他可能有点
down obviously I was a bit as a mom
沮丧,显然,作为一个母亲,我有点
concerned and the night before we lost
担心,在我们失去他的前一天晚上,
him he was in his room so I used that
他还在他的房间里,所以我利用了这个
opportunity to kind of talk to him and
机会 和他谈谈,
say is everything
问他一切都好
okay and he talked to me quite openly
吗,那天晚上他很坦诚地跟我说话,
that night and I didn't have any any
我没有任何
concerns yeah Jenna would you be able to
担忧,是的,詹娜,你能
talk to us about what you remember of
和我们谈谈你对
the day that Bradley
布拉德利
died so I was at
去世那天的记忆吗 我当时正在
work and I got a text
上班,然后收到一条
message and all it said was come home
短信,上面只说“
now it's
现在回家”,是
Brad I assumed that it was um a message
布拉德发来的,我猜这是
that Brad had typed his dad and said oh
布拉德给他爸爸发的短信,说“哦,
tell text your mom tell her that she
告诉你妈妈,告诉她她
needs to come home now didn't think
现在需要回家” 我
anything of
什么也没想,
it and when I got there Brad's dad was
当我到达那里时,布拉德的爸爸正在
in the road and told me to get out of
路上,他告诉我要离开
the road pull the car off the road
马路,把车停在路边,
because the ambulance was on its way and
因为救护车正在路上,
I said what what do you mean what's
我说你什么什么意思什么
what's going on and he said Brad's hung
什么 他说布拉德上吊
himself what
自杀了,
yeah the First Responders had got there
是的,急救人员已经到了那里,
so they
所以他们
were trying to bring him back
想把他带
here but they wouldn't let me see
回来 但他们不让我见
him and it won't until I saw them
他,直到我看到他们
putting him on the back of the
把他放在
ambulance that I got to see
救护车后面,我才看到
him they kind of said we've been trying
他,他们说我们已经试了
now for over an hour he's not coming
一个多小时了,他不会
back so they said we need to we need you
回来了 所以他们说我们需要你
to tell us it's okay to stop trying
告诉我们不要再尝试了
you just kind of
你只是
existing taking each minute as it comes
活在当下
because you just don't know what to do
因为你不知道该做什么是的
with yourself
yeah my whole world had just
我的整个世界都
imploded from when he first saw that
崩溃了当他 第一次看到那个
video how much time passed between then
视频,从那时
and when he passed away
到他去世,过了多久?
I think that video was uploaded at the
我认为那个视频是在
end of the year and Brad died on January
年底上传的,布拉德于 1 月
the
10th oh my God I mean so we no that's
10 日去世,天哪,我的意思是,我们知道那是
weeks
几周,
yeah how do you think it escalated so
是的,你怎么看
quickly from seeing that first video to
从看到第一个视频到
what happened that day he would obsess
那天发生的事情,他的情绪迅速升级,他会对一些
about things so I think the concept of
事情产生执念,所以我认为
suicide became
自杀的概念成为了
one of those interests for
him at what point did you think I
他的兴趣之一,你认为是在什么时候
think realize at what point did you
意识到的,你什么时候
realize that social media might have had
意识到社交媒体 可能和 Bry
something to do with what happened to
发生的事情有关,
Bry so it was during the investigation I
所以在调查期间,我
suppose the day he died he'd wiped his
猜他死的那天他 删除了他的
phone there was just a one text message
手机,只剩下一条
he sent to a friend and it said
他发给朋友的短信,
something along the lines of it looks
内容大概是“
like I'm going to get help for my
看来我要寻求帮助来解决我的
problems we were sort of given bits of
问题了”,我们得到了一些
information about what Brad had been
关于布拉德访问过什么的信息
accessing so he'd been looking through
所以他一直在浏览
threads about suicide and how
关于自杀的帖子,以及如何自杀,
to and talking to people that he didn't
并与那些他并不
really know people that he talked to
真正认识的人交谈,他和这些人
about gaming yeah um do you know what
谈论游戏,是的,你知道
kind of conversations he'd been having
他和他们进行了什么样的对话吗?
with them I think he was talking to them
我想他 和他们
about about his
谈论他的
plans I mean it's just horrific isn't it
计划,我的意思是这太可怕了,不是吗
Brad was so trustworthy and he loved a
布拉德是如此值得信赖,他喜欢
rule he didn't like to break rules and
规则,他不喜欢打破规则,
yeah you know that for him to access
是的,你知道,为了访问
that kind of content he must have
那种内容,他必须
realized that wasn't a good thing which
意识到这不是一件好事,这对
must be so baffling for you as his mom
你来说一定很困惑,因为他的妈妈
there's a lot of questions I won't ever
有很多问题我永远
get answers to and he was he was so much
得不到答案,他
more than what he
did so much
所做的远远不止这些,
more you've never spoken about this
你从来没有 我
publicly before so first of thank you so
之前公开谈论过这个问题,所以首先非常感谢你,
much what would you like to see change I
你希望看到什么改变,我
just think children should have limited
只是认为孩子们应该被限制
access to certain things I don't even
接触某些东西,我 甚至不
understand why there are threads
明白为什么会有
discussing how to commit
讨论如何
suicide why does anyone need to have
自杀的帖子为什么有人需要进行
that conversation yeah especially a
这样的谈话是的尤其是一个
child yeah do you think if he hadn't
孩子是的你认为如果他没有
have
had that access at his finger tips do
这种触手可及的机会
you think he would still be here today
你认为他还会自杀吗 今天在这里是
yes
的
absolutely that was
绝对的,那很
tough even though you think you're
艰难,即使你认为你已经
across everything may
渡过了难关,但无论
be things can still slip through the net
no matter how cautious you you are I
你多么谨慎,事情仍然可能会漏网,我
don't see any way of dealing with this
看不出有什么办法可以解决这个问题,
without tougher age
除非有更严格的年龄
restrictions otherwise we're like oh
限制 否则我们会觉得,
well that's the world we live in now
这就是我们现在生活的世界,这个
that's keep destroying kids that can't
世界一直在毁掉孩子,这不能
be the excuse and that can't be an
成为借口,这不能成为
excuse it's not good
借口,
enough as one household you're figh a
作为一个家庭,你在打一场
losing battle it's got to be us it's got
必败的战斗,必须 是我们,
to be schools it's got to be tech
必须是学校,必须是科技
companies it's got to be government
公司,必须是政府,
everybody needs to play their part
每个人都需要发挥自己的作用
next time and I'll have to do nothing
下次我整个周末都什么都不用做,
all weekend the kids struggle in a
孩子们在一个
smartphone free world
没有智能手机的世界中挣扎
EP I did last night can we just get
EP 我做了 昨晚我们能不能
through tonight em and I take things to
熬过今晚,然后我把东西带到
Westminster in the time that we're
威斯敏斯特 我们正在
trying to figure it out young people are
试图弄清楚年轻人正在
dying you cannot meet those families
死去,你
without being shaken to the core and
不能不被震撼到内心而见到这些家庭,
will the kids see a difference by the
孩子们在
end of the experiment no other parents
实验结束时会看到不同吗?没有其他父母
should have to lose
应该失去
kids for us and the kids at the school
孩子 我们和学校里的孩子们
it's only been a week with without our
才刚刚一个星期没有玩
phones but I'm already very very aware
手机,但我已经非常清楚
of how addicted I am to it and that's
我对手机的上瘾程度,
what I see with my kids as well we were
我也看到我的孩子们也是这样。我们
like right at 8:00 I want all your
早上 8 点左右就开始玩手机了。 想要你所有的
phones in the kitchen charging nothing
手机都在厨房里充电,楼上什么都没有,
upstairs they were like what why did our
他们就像为什么我们的
parents sign up for
父母要报名参加
this em and I are taking part in a total
这个,我正在参加一个全面
smartphone ban experiment I'm literally
禁止智能手机的实验,我真的
like a it we've locked up our devices
很喜欢它,我们已经锁定了我们的设备
for 21 days love you and asked a group
21 天爱你,并要求一群
of 12-year-olds to do the
12 岁的孩子做
same how you feeling miles fine yeah
同样的事情你感觉如何英里很好是的,
yeah cuz I get five quid a day so oh do
因为我每天得到五英镑所以哦
you minut it eyes closed the impact this
你闭上眼睛看看这
has on our mental and physical health is
对我们的身心健康的影响是
being monitored throughout nothing can
全程受到监控,不会
go wrong right like I can't get
出什么问题,就像我不会
electrocuted we've heard some of the
触电一样,我们听说过一些
devastating consequences of early phone
早期使用手机的灾难性后果
use I don't think so social media is a
我认为社交媒体不是一个
safe place I used to have like three
安全的地方我曾经每天有三次
panic attacks a day and like I would go
恐慌发作,然后我就会开始
on my phone and that probably didn't
玩手机,这可能没有
help I ended up talking to somebody not
帮助我最终和 一些
so nice who definitely wasn't who they
不太好的人,他们肯定不是他们
said they were we've learned alarming
所说的人,我们从专家那里了解到令人震惊的
facts from experts so we know that one
事实,所以我们知道每
in 10 9year olds have already seen
10 个 9 岁的孩子中就有一个已经看过
pornography oh my
色情内容,
God and witnessed firsthand the
天哪,亲眼目睹了
distressing content our kids can access
我们的孩子在他们的电脑上可以访问的令人痛苦的内容
on their phones oh oh my God there's not
手机哦天哪
a chance of they am in it I feel like
他们不可能在里面我觉得
we've blindly been letting our kids on
我们盲目地让我们的孩子使用
their phones we need to be more aware
手机我们需要更加注意
but other people need to take
但其他人需要
responsibility for what they're creating
为他们所创造的东西负责
for what they're allowing on their apps
允许他们使用他们的应用程序,
we locking away their devices make our
我们锁定他们的设备,让我们的
kids happier healthier and more ready to
孩子更快乐、更健康、更愿意
learn oh my god I've just put my life in
学习,天哪,我刚刚把我的生活放在
there it's completely gone and prove
那里,它完全消失了,并证明
智能手机应该被禁止,直到
our children are at least full
我们的孩子至少吃饱
team well it's already day
团队,现在已经是
seven I had a funny dream last night and
第七天了,昨晚我做了一个有趣的梦,
I have my phone in
我
there at the stanway school in Essex the
在埃塞克斯斯坦威学校的音乐课上讲过
phone ban has been in place for a
手机禁令,这项实验已经实施了一周,
week this experiment is important for
for schools everywhere because we're at
对于世界各地的学校来说都很重要,因为我们处于
the front line of the issues of young
年轻人使用手机问题的最前线
people with mobile phones we are seeing
我们看到
more and more students with mental
越来越多的学生有心理
health issues more students with sleep
健康问题,越来越多的学生睡眠
deprivation and these are all issues
不足,这些都是
that we're trying to deal
我们正在努力解决的问题,
with the students haven't found parting
学生们发现放弃
with their devices
他们的设备并不
easy I see it it's weird near in the no
容易,我发现在没有手机的情况下,这很奇怪
phone Universe what could happen po
宇宙会发生什么,
phine we can literally like cancel this
我们可以随时取消,
any time if it seriously doesn't work
如果它真的不起作用,那是
out is that is that possible Right my
可能的,对吧,我的
phone come back to me no oh my God like
手机回到我身边,不,天哪,就像
this morning Jacob is doing something
今天早上雅各布做了一件
really dumb so I was going to take a
非常愚蠢的事情,所以我 我要给他拍个
video of him then I go where's my phone
视频,然后我去手机那里
take a and I
拍了个视频,然后我
realized it would be so weird not having
意识到直到 18 岁才有手机会很奇怪,
a phone till you're like 18 my dad got
我爸爸 18 岁时就有了
his first phone at 18 and like that's
他的第一部手机,这有点
kind of crazy they're ready tribes out
疯狂 准备好部落
there like indigenous people who live
就像没有电话的土著人一样,
without
phones got tribes now it's sort of
现在已经形成了部落
setting in I'm 100% sure I'm going to
我百分之百地确信
come out of it better in the long run
从长远来看我会变得更好,
but I think I might get to the point
但我觉得我可能会达到
where I'm absolutely just
完全感到
bored I think it's pretty obvious that I
无聊的地步,我想很明显我
was way more worried than Emma when we
更担心 比艾玛当我们
first started this I was thinking I was
刚开始的时候,我想我
going to find it really horrible and
会发现它非常可怕和
really difficult and I I hat it I'm
非常困难,我讨厌它,我
really attached to my phone BL but I
真的很依赖我的手机BL,但我
feel quite all right and I've really
感觉很好,我真的很
enjoyed being
享受
present it's just typical isn't it that
现在的状态,只是 很典型,不是吗?
Matt has been like a duck to water with
马特对它如鱼得水
it and I was super excited and the
,我非常兴奋,而当
minute I didn't have it I was filled
我没有得到它时,我充满了
with anxiety I felt like I couldn't
焦虑,我觉得我不能
go these school kids are going to be
去这些学校的孩子会
missing their interactions with their
想念他们和
friends but they're going to be dying
朋友的互动,但他们快要死了,
get back on their phone you know so are
回到他们的手机上,你知道,
we going to make any lasting change with
我们会对这些孩子做出任何持久的改变吗?
these
kids I don't
我不知道
[音乐]所以
know so good morning here we
早上好,我们
come morning morning morning morning mdy
来了,早上好,早上好 早上好,
morning Harry morning over 90% of 11year
早上好,哈利,早上好,超过 90% 的 11 岁
olds own a smartphone and Incredibly
儿童拥有智能手机,令人难以置信的是,
half of our nation's 9-year-olds do too
我们国家一半的 9 岁的孩子也
I think there's no question at all we're
有同样的问题,我认为毫无疑问,我们
giving children smartphones far too
给孩子智能手机的时间
young as a doctor I have seen time and
太早了,作为一名医生,我一次
time again teenagers and adolescents
又一次地看到,青少年和青春期的孩子
have their mental health problems get
significantly better when they cut out
在戒掉智能手机后,他们的心理健康问题得到了显著改善
smartphones to give us a deeper
为了让我们更深入地
understanding of the effects of
了解
smartphone use the University of York
智能手机使用的影响,约克大学
are analyzing the children's sleep
正在分析儿童的睡眠
well-being and Health Data and carrying
幸福感和健康数据,并
out an anonymous schoolwide survey on
开展一项关于手机使用情况的匿名全校调查,
phone use it is our responsibility like
as research scientists to really get a
作为研究科学家,我们有责任真正
handle on the psychological costs and
掌握 关于
the benefits of smartphone use and to
使用智能手机的心理成本和好处,以及
know what the appropriate legislation
and safeguarding needs to be put in
需要制定哪些适当的立法和保护措施
place in order to protect our young
来保护我们的年轻
people we're now over a third of the way
人,我们现在已经完成了
through the
experiment day
第八天实验的三分之一
eight I think we're doing rather
我认为我们昨天做得相当
well yesterday I I actually played Lego
不错我实际上玩了乐高
marrow of Isaac happy birthday dear
艾萨克的骨髓生日快乐亲爱的
scarl Happy Birthday to you why is it a
斯卡尔祝你生日快乐为什么它是一部
phone smartphones are one of the world's
手机智能手机是世界上
best distraction devices so children are
最好的分散注意力的设备之一所以孩子们
growing up now never needing to be
现在长大了永远不需要
bought I usually go out but it's a bit
购买我 通常会出去,但
hard to plan something because I can't
由于无法发信息,所以计划事情有点困难
message anyone yeah I don't want to
任何人,是的,我不想
knock on someone's door seeing if
敲别人的门,看看
whoever they're in or out I just want to
他们是否在里面或外面,我只想
text on my is so weird there is a desire
发短信,这太奇怪了,
to change their relationship with these
他们想改变与这些
devices so we need to help them you know
设备的关系,所以我们需要帮助他们,你知道
what you want to do after school like
放学后你想做什么,比如
when I get home I'm like call my mates
当我回到家时,我会打电话给我的朋友们,
she was online get some food that's my
她在线,吃点东西,这就是我的
day but now without a phone I'm just
一天,但现在没有手机,我
missing out on all the fun that they
错过了他们本
could be having which kind of makes me
可以拥有的所有乐趣,这有点 让我
jealous miles has struggled through the
嫉妒的是,迈尔斯在手机禁令的第一周里一直挣扎着,
first week of the phone
ban if my parents weren't here and I
如果我父母不在这里,我
could get my phone back I would stop
可以拿回我的手机,我就不会再这样
doing
做
it they're like oh it's good for you
了,他们会说,哦,这对你有好处,
it's going to be better for
这对你会更好
you phones cause a lot of problems for
手机给学校带来了很多问题,
schools but a lot of our pastoral issues
但我们处理的很多牧师问题
that we deal with have actually started
实际上都是
outside of the school that's access to
在学校之外开始的,比如让学生接触
material that they shouldn't have
不该接触的材料,
whether it's just addiction to the phone
无论是沉迷于手机
and lack of sleep so in essence we're
还是缺乏睡眠,本质上 我们正在
breeding and growing a society of
培养和发展一个
children who are not used to being able
不习惯
to manage
处理
that oh my
这种情况的孩子社会,
Lord can't be B at school in the day
天哪 白天在学校不能是 B,
there's stuff to do but when you get
有事情要做,但是当你
home like it's your choice what to do
回到家时,你可以选择做什么,
that's what's kind of
这有点
harder so miles tell me how are you
困难,所以迈尔斯告诉我你感觉怎么样,
feeling that's bold absolutely nothing
这很大胆,完全没什么
to do you can help make dinner yeah but
可做,你可以帮忙做晚饭 是的,但
I just don't want to do yeah it's Friday
我不想做是的明天是星期五是
tomorrow yeah and then I have to do
的然后我
nothing all
整个
weekend miles you can do this be strong
周末什么都不做英里你可以做到这一点要坚强
no what what is there to do all
没有什么整个周末有什么可做的
weekend I felt more comfortable being at
我感觉在学校更舒服
school because I was occupied by so much
因为我 有太多
stuff to do and I
事情要做,
I just want my phone M that's all yeah
我只想要我的手机 M 就这样,
but you don't have your phone to fall
但是你没有你的手机可以
asleep yeah and St falling asleep I last
入睡,是的,St 昨晚睡着了,
night can we just get through tonight
我们能不能今晚就结束,
and we'll discuss it in the morning
我们会在晚上讨论 早上
yeah smartphone usage is clearly
好,是的,智能手机的使用显然已经根深蒂固地
ingrained in the lives of our
融入了我们
12-year-olds but recent studies show
12 岁孩子的生活中,但最近的研究表明
that a fifth of three and four-year-olds
,五分之一的三岁和四岁儿童
have their own device
too Dr naani is a consultant
也有自己的设备。Naani 博士是一位
pediatrician who has been actively
儿科顾问,一直在积极
researching screen use in the under
研究屏幕使用 在
FES what I'm seeing at the cold face in
FES 下我 在我的诊所里看到的那些冷漠的面孔
my clinics is the Advent of nonverbal
是无语言儿童的出现,
childr in other words two or threey old
换句话说,两三岁的
toddlers who walk in normal Mobility
幼儿以正常的行动和
normal
正常的
coordination and they don't say a word
协调性行走,他们不说一句话,
they have this glazed look they don't
他们有这种呆滞的表情,他们不
look at you they're looking at inanimate
看你,他们 正在看
objects in the room and for a lot of
房间里的无生命物体,
these children I discovered that they
我发现很多孩子
are spending most of their waking
醒着的时候大部分
hours on the screen in front of the
时间都花在屏幕前。
screen Primary School teachers tell me
小学老师告诉我,这些
children are coming with developmental
孩子患有发展性
language difficulties behavioral
语言障碍、行为
problems temper tantrums and nursery
问题、脾气暴躁 发脾气,托儿所
workers are now saying that they're
工作人员现在说,
having Tantrums when they're dropped off
他们被送去时发脾气是
because the screens are taking away
因为屏幕被拿走了,
rather than because the parents are
而不是因为父母要
leaving for 0 to two the only screen
离开0到2点,唯一的屏幕
users should be video chat between two
用户应该是2到5点之间的视频聊天,
and five the maximum time for giving a
最多 每天给孩子使用
device should be no longer than 30
设备的时间不应该超过 30
minutes during the day right okay but
分钟,对吧,但这
it's not calling parents lazy it's
并不是说父母懒惰,这
become just daily to just have this
只是每天这样做,
while I do this the only way to develop
而我这样做,发展语言的唯一方法
language is by talking to your child by
是通过与孩子交谈,通过
interacting with your child do you see
与孩子互动 你的孩子,你认为
this as a growing issue I very
这是一个日益严重的问题吗?
frightened by the gravity the severity
害怕
of this issue and what it's doing to our
这个问题的严重性,以及它对我们的
society to our
社会和我们的
children brain scans on heavy phone
孩子的影响,对重度使用手机的幼儿的脑部扫描
using young children have also shown
也显示了
structural changes in areas that lead to
导致
impulsivity inattention and behavioral
冲动、注意力不集中和行为
difficulties these are the same areas of
困难的区域的结构变化,这些都是大脑的相同区域
the brain that affected in children with
ADHD due to his resear Arch Dr Nani
由于他的研究,患有注意力缺陷多动障碍的儿童受到影响。 Arch Dr Nani
believes phones should be banned for
认为应该禁止儿童使用手机,
children until they are even older than
直到他们超过
14 so the government in my opinion
14 岁,所以我认为政府
should ban a smartphone for for children
应该禁止
under 16 and there needs to be decisive
16 岁以下的儿童使用智能手机,并且需要采取果断
action a total ban not just guidelines
行动 全面禁止,而不仅仅是制定指导方针,
because I'm really
因为我真的很
concerned
担心,
that human
beings as we know them starting from
从幼儿期开始,我们所知道的人类
Early Childhood will be changed
将会发生
for for the
worst I think everywhere I look this is
最糟糕的变化。我认为,无论我在哪里看到,这都比
so much bigger and more than I
anticipated you know as parents we feel
预期的要大得多,作为父母,我们感到
at a loss I feel like we this does need
不知所措,我觉得我们这确实需要
to be bigger than us doesn't need to be
比我们更大,不需要
bigger than individual needs to be
比个人更大,需要
societal change and that's why we need
社会变革,这就是为什么我们需要
this experiment
这个实验
dude on the phone thank you it's the
电话里的兄弟谢谢你这是
second week of the smartphone ban I'm
第二周 智能手机禁令让我很
missing my phone the I miss it way more
想念我的手机,我
than Isaac and nearly halfway through
比 艾萨克,这个八年级的实验已经进行到一半了,
the experiment for this class of year
eights how are you it's my birthday
你好吗,明天是我的生日,
tomorrow tomorrow happy birthday
明天生日快乐,
tomorrow How old uh 13 oh the big
多大了,13岁,
13 the age group that we're doing the
13岁,我们正在做实验的年龄组
experiment with is a very impressionable
是一个非常容易受影响的
age group when you're 12 13 years old
年龄组, 你已经12 13岁了,
there are so many many influences social
社交
media can create Norms that are not
媒体可以创造很多影响,这些影响并不
realistic explicit
现实,露骨的
images the average age Children First
图像,儿童第一次接触色情作品的平均年龄
see pornography is 13 with 10% having
是13岁,其中10%的人
viewed it by the age of nine young
在9岁时就看过色情作品,
people's understanding of what a
年轻人对色情作品的理解
relationship is is now being
关系现在正受到
dramatically influenced by online
网络色情的巨大影响,
pornography smartphones are are bringing
智能手机正在给
a whole new world of of dangers to our
我们的孩子带来一个全新的危险世界,
children and that's quite frightening
这非常可怕,
actually 64% of young people have seen
实际上 64% 的年轻人使用制作团队 Matt
porn on online using blank phones given
给我们的空白手机看过网上色情片
to us by the production team Matt and I
want to see for ourselves just how easy
想亲眼看看
it is for children to access this
孩子们访问这个
website contains age restricted
网站有多容易,该网站包含年龄限制
materials including nudity and explicit
材料,包括裸体和露骨的
depictions of sexual activity there's
性行为描述,有
two to click I am 18 or older enter or
两个点击我已满 18 岁进入或
I'm under 18 exit is that it so then we
我未满 18 岁退出,是吗 然后我们
click on that I am 18 or older and we're
点击我已满 18 岁,然后我们就可以
in so that's all you have to press okay
进入了,所以你必须按好,
first up as in of a girl getting choked
首先是一个女孩
in the back of a
在
car next one it's Bookworm little
车后座被勒死,下一个是书呆子的小
stepsister tries
继妹尝试
sex and there's lots of like one woman
做爱,还有很多 就像一个女人
and loads of men yeah it looks like
和一大群男人,是的,它看起来像
YouTube yeah and it wouldn't feel like
YouTube,是的,它不会让您觉得
you stumbled upon something you
您偶然发现了一些您
shouldn't be watching no because it kind
不应该看的东西,不,因为它
of feels familiar
有点熟悉,
similar so this a video a cuffed sex
所以这是一个被铐住的性
slave gets dominated
奴隶被支配的视频
oh oh my God no no no no no
哦 哦天哪不不不
no oh please turn that off see that's
不不不哦请关掉它看看这太
horrific I
恐怖了我的
mean that that's like the movie Seven
意思是这就像电影《
yeah that is absolutely horrific it
七宗罪》是的这太恐怖了它
makes me want to vomit it's
让我想吐这太
horrendous so
恐怖了所以
anybody of any age can view this as long
任何年龄的人都可以观看这个
as just say that you're over 18 you say
只要 说你已经超过 18 岁了,你说
you're over 18 and there you are you
你已经超过 18 岁了,你
could be an 11 12 13 year old kid and
可能是一个 11 12 13 岁的孩子,
you don't know what sex is and this is
你不知道什么是性,这是
the first thing you see this is what you
你看到的第一件事 你
think is normal yeah I can't think of a
认为这是正常的吗?是的,我想不出
more damaging thing than your first
比你第一次看到性爱画面更有害的事情了。
image of sex being
this I think it's hard to see what we've
我觉得很难看到我们
seen on porn sites
在色情网站上看到的东西,
and not be worried about your kids
而且不担心你的孩子
seeing any of that as much
看到这些
as we think we know what's going on we
虽然我们认为自己知道发生了什么,但
really haven't got a clue and we as
实际上我们对此一无所知,作为
parents have not been across what our
父母,我们并不了解我们的
kids are doing and
孩子在做什么,也不知道他们受到什么
restrictions as much as we should have
限制,尽管我们应该
been doing this I've actually felt
这样做,但我真的
really guilty about
对此感到非常内疚
how how little input and knowledge I've
这么长时间以来,我对此的投入和知识是多么的少啊,
had on it for this amount of
time come in hi hello miles has
你好,迈尔斯一直在
struggled to adjust to life without his
努力适应没有
smartphone something he's come to
智能手机的生活,他来
discuss with Dr chaty we're almost
和查蒂博士讨论这件事,我们已经
halfway through this little
完成了这个小
experiment uh how how are things going
实验的一半了,呃,怎么样
when I got home from school I just felt
我放学回家后感觉怎么样?我只是觉得
a bit queasy and I was
有点恶心,
like it gave me a weird feeling in my
感觉胃里有一种奇怪的感觉,
stomach that sounds a little bit as
听起来有点像
though you were having feelings of
你感到
anxiety have you had that before never I
焦虑,你以前有过这种感觉吗?我从来没有
only got it since the challenge started
自从挑战开始以来,
something that a lot of people don't
很多人都没有
realize is that yeah you can have
意识到,是的,你可以有
anxious thoughts but you can also feel
焦虑的想法,但你也可以感觉到
in your body so I think this queasiness
你的 身体,所以我觉得这种恶心
and this sensation in your stomach was
和胃部的感觉
actually your body having that kind of
实际上是你的身体有这种
reaction yeah
反应,是的
I love using my phone but I've Lear like
我喜欢用手机,但我喜欢
I I use it more than for I like I use it
我使用它比我喜欢我经常使用它
a lot and I don't know how much it would
affect me when it got taken
当第 11 天中途取消
[音乐] 会对我产生多大影响,
away day
11
halfway whilst the smartphone free
而没有智能手机的
existence has its challenge es many of
生活也有其挑战,因为许多
the kids are now starting to feel the
孩子现在开始感受到它的
benefits I'm a lot more active than
好处,我比以前活跃得多
usual we been playing like ball games
我们通常会玩一些球类游戏,
going out for a bit and just having fun
出去玩一会儿,只是为了好玩,
because of the addictive nature of these
因为这些设备的成瘾性,
devices a lot of childhoods these days
现在很多人的童年
are not based around play certainly not
不是以玩耍为基础的,当然也不是
play with other human beings we need to
和其他人一起玩,我们需要
practice interacting with other people
练习与其他人互动 我
the enjoyed not having a phone and I've
很享受没有手机的乐趣,我
really enjoyed like being more
真的很享受
sociable these devices are basically
社交,这些设备基本上是
tools to not be
present everything good in
逃避现实的工具,生活中一切美好的事物都
life comes from an ability to be present
来自于一种存在的能力,
which is over our
halfway when I'm coming home and sort of
当我回家的时候,
spending more family time when I look up
当我抬头看时,花更多的时间与家人
it just seems a bit weird already cuz
在一起似乎有点奇怪,因为
I've already had one for a
我已经有一段
while how's it going it wor out
时间了 怎么样了,结果如何,
it's been hard work I think we
工作很辛苦,我想我们
underestimated just how much we'd have
低估了
to step up as parents miles was fidgety
作为父母我们需要付出的努力,迈尔斯很烦躁,
it like you could see his frustration
你可以看到他的沮丧
and he just didn't know what to do with
,他不知道该做些什么,
himself yeah and that was quite hard for
是的,
us to watch proper withw he went to yeah
我们很难看清他是如何去的,是的,
he had like real anxiety butterflies he
他真的很焦虑,他
is used to having had that so to
已经习惯了这种感觉,所以
suddenly remove all of it at the same
突然在同一时间把这些都去除
time must be and as parents we we gave
,作为父母,我们给了
him a for his birthday we think we''re
他一个 生日那天,我们觉得我们
given him a wonderful present and
给了他一份很棒的礼物,但
actually are we it's made me feel that
事实上,这让我觉得把
it's not in their best interest to just
hand them this it's like it's access all
这个交给他们并不符合他们的最佳利益,就像是可以进入所有
areas isn't it it's crazy when you think
区域一样,不是吗,想想就觉得很疯狂,
about it
yeah right what cars we having uh d boy
是的 对了,我们有什么样的车,呃,d boy
van and DeLorean
van 和 DeLorean,
go I think Harry's coping quite well
我认为 Harry 应对得很好,
actually it's been nice cuz we sort of
实际上这很好,因为我们
doing other things that we don't
做了一些我们通常不做的事情,
normally do
it actually sort of feels like you got a
实际上感觉你又
bit more of Harry back next Tuesday my
找回了 Harry 下周二我的
phone will be back in my hands are we
手机就会回到我手中
going to lose you again pray for a
会再次失去你祈祷
little while oh now I'm thinking I don't
一会儿哦现在我在想我
really want Harry having his phone back
真的不想让哈利拿回他的手机
and it's sort of it's causing me AIT bit
这有点让我
of a dilemma me and Nana are very proud
左右为难我和娜娜
of you cuz what you've done is it's a
为你感到骄傲因为你 '我所做的是一件
very important
非常重要的
thing yeah
事情,是的,
for Matt and I this experiment has
对于马特和我来说,这个实验
already been eye openening we're shocked
已经令人大开眼界,我们对
by some of the disturbing content we've
seen on social media and how much time
社交媒体上看到的一些令人不安的内容感到震惊,以及
kids including our own spend on it I
包括我们自己的孩子在社交媒体上花费了多少时间。
think us not having our phones and being
想想看,我们没有手机,
able to observe our kids' Behavior with
能够观察孩子们使用
devices we've had lots of time to we'
设备的行为,我们
had so much time to observe and watch
有大量的时间来观察和观察
them just looking at how much time they
他们,只是看看他们
spend on each app was
在每个应用上花了多少时间,
like whoa this could be 10 hours a week
就像哇 每周可能有 10 个小时的时间,
that someone's on this one of our kids
有人会看这个,我们的孩子会
is on this you know what are they going
看这个,你知道他们
to see in that time cuz they're going to
在这段时间里会看到什么吗?因为他们会
see what I've seen you know and they're
看到我所看到的东西,你知道,他们
going to be affected by it
会 受到了影响,
yeah and this evening we've traveled to
是的,今晚我们
meet Mark and Lisa a couple whose family
去见了马克和丽莎,这对夫妇的家人
have been devastated by a social media
社交媒体
challenge gone
挑战失败让我很
wrong hello hi Matt hello hi please come
沮丧你好,马特,你好,请进来,
thanks what was Isaac like he was a he
谢谢艾萨克是什么样的人,他
was a smart kid he was intelligent yeah
是一个聪明的孩子,他很聪明,是的,
he's very very smart yeah used to come
他非常非常聪明,是的,他经常
into us early hours in the morning with
在早上很早的时候来找我们
like fact of the
day he used to like you know playing
事实上,他以前喜欢
football in the garden with with us yeah
和我们在花园里踢足球,是的,他
was trampolining trampolining and he
在蹦床,他也
loved rugby as well at school yeah yeah
喜欢橄榄球,在学校,是的,
what can you say he was just a normal
你能说什么呢,他只是一个普通的
kid oh how old was he when he first got
孩子,哦,他第一次玩的时候多大了
a phone 11 I was were 11 as when school
我 11 岁的时候有一部手机,就像
like when you go to Secondary School
你上中学时一样,
whatever you need us keep you safe yeah
无论你需要什么,我们都会保护你的安全,是的,
he kept asking us for Tik Tok because
他一直问我们要 Tik Tok,因为
his sister's two years older than him so
他的姐姐比他大两岁,所以
she already had it it was all very
她已经有了 Tik Tok,这一切都非常
innocent we we we used to check the
无辜的我们,我们过去常常检查
phone the schools gave them lots of
手机,学校给了他们很多
Education about you know beware of these
教育,你知道要小心
weird people online and all that yeah
网上这些奇怪的人,所有那些,是的
and he knew all about that you think you
,他知道这一切,你认为你
can do all the right things and we
可以做所有正确的事情,我们
thought we were doing all the right
以为我们在做 都是正确的
things
事情,
yeah so what exactly was the challenge
所以 Isa 所面临的挑战到底是什么?
that Isa were doing it was the Blackout
昏厥
Challenge right it was something where
挑战,对吧,就是
you restrict the airway and then you
限制呼吸道,然后你就昏
pass out
过去了,
right would you mind telling us about
对吧,你能告诉我们
what happened that
那天发生了什么吗,
day typical day both of them come
典型的一天,他们两个都
running out of
从
school got home Isaac went upstairs
学校跑回家,艾萨克上楼了,
so I started doing dinner and then it's
所以我开始做晚饭,然后
around about half 5ish something like
大约五点半左右的时候,
that I called up the
我叫了
stairs and he would normally come
楼上的人,他通常会从
bounding down the stairs for
楼梯上下来找
food noticed that the bathroom door was
吃的,我注意到浴室的门
closed so I knocked on the door and
关着,所以我敲了敲门,但
there's no
没有人
answer Panic set in I ran downstairs I
回应,我开始惊慌失措,我跑到楼下,
got a hammer and I hammered the
拿了一把锤子 然后我
door and that's where I found Isaac
敲开门,在那里我发现了艾萨克,
I swear my world fell
我发誓我的世界崩塌了
apart I was just laid out with tubes in
我躺在那里,身上插满了管子,
there and ventilated and all
还有通风设备
that they couldn't save
他们无法救
him I went outside there's a chapel and
他,我走到外面,那里有一个教堂,
I just sat down outside for ages just
我在外面坐了好久,只是
crying and thinking God please got you
哭泣,想着上帝,请你
know
知道
the shock of losing your child is just
失去孩子的震惊是
it's Indescribable you know yeah I'm
难以形容的,你知道,我
still dealing with it public tell I can
仍然在处理它,公开告诉我,我
only imagine yeah oh it's horrendous
只能想象,是的,哦,这是 太可怕了,
mate honestly it's so
老实说,这音乐太
bad when police looked at Isaac's phone
糟糕了,警察检查艾萨克的手机时,
they found two previous attempts at the
发现他之前曾两次尝试过
Blackout
Blackout
Challenge and they said we' be okay to
Challenge,他们说我们可以
watch it play it the thing is it's
看着他播放音乐,但问题是,
really hard to watch him on the screen
once he did it and he came around he was
一旦他 他做到了,然后他回过神来,
laughing so then the anger kicks in
笑了起来,然后愤怒就来了,
thinking how can you be so stupid but
心想你怎么能这么蠢,但
obviously they don't see the dangers it
显然他们没有看到这件事的危险,调查显示这是
went down with the inquest as
misadventure he didn't mean to K
一次意外,他不是故意的,K
himself Lisa and Mark believe Isaac may
自己,丽莎和马克 相信艾萨克可能
have seen The Challenge on Tik Tok but
在 Tik Tok 上看过《挑战》,但
the police were unable to ascertain what
警方无法确定
videos have been viewed and the coroner
观看了哪些视频,验尸官
ruled that Isaac's death was a result of
裁定艾萨克的死亡是意外事故造成的,作为
misadventure
when you're a parent you love your kids
父母,你爱你的孩子,
you want the best for them you know and
你希望他们得到最好的 你知道,
you try everything you can yet in their
你尽了一切努力,但他们的
pocket is this other world do we done
口袋里却装着另一个世界,我们做了一些
something like do we oh man you do yeah
事情,比如我们做了什么,哦,天哪,你做了,是的,
you do question yourself as as the
你问自己,作为
parent have you have you failed have you
父母,你有没有失败过,你有
failed the safety of your child you go
没有辜负过你孩子的安全
through everything he you I wouldn't
经历他的一切 你我不
wish my enemy all the rules you have are
希望我的敌人你所拥有的所有规则都是
what we have yeah that I think that's
我们所拥有的,是的,我想这就是
why I've been so quiet actually is that
为什么我一直如此安静,事实上,
you know for just normal
你知道对于一个普通的
family what would you like to happen
家庭来说,
like when it comes to these apps
当涉及到这些事情时,你希望发生什么 应用程序和
definitely the algorithms need to be put
算法肯定需要
under control definitely there's nothing
得到控制,没有
there that can stop anyone going on and
什么可以阻止任何人继续这样
doing it need be parents schools the
做,无论是家长、学校、
platforms and the government they all
平台还是政府,他们都
need to be in line and they all need to
需要保持一致,他们都需要
realize that we need to work together to
意识到我们需要努力 一起
protect the children yeah
保护孩子们,是的,
it's not going to be a simple task but
这不是一个简单的任务,但
unless we do it there's going to be more
如果我们不这样做,会有更多的
dead children yeah
孩子死亡,是的,
absolutely you can't
你绝对无法
imagine what that's like you know and
想象那是什么样子,你知道,
um and then having to deal with it
然后不得不
forever living with it yeah yeah when
永远面对它, 是的,是的,当
they were saying you know I I can't
他们说你知道我,我无法
thinking what did we do
思考我们
wrong you know how did we fail and you
做错了什么你知道我们是如何失败的你
know and it's oh you just want to go you
知道,哦,你只是想去你
didn't you know you didn't there is
没有你知道你没有在
somebody somewhere that could change
某个地方有某个人 这可以改变
that so that no other parents have to
这种状况,这样就不会有其他父母
lose
失去
kids so that no other kids have their
孩子,就不会有其他孩子的
life gut short
生命变得短暂,
it's just not
这是
right you are bab yeah you
不对的 宝贝,是的,你
sure we're in the final week of the
当然,我们正处于实验的最后一周,
experiment you do want coffee baby yeah
你想要咖啡宝贝,
please and at the St School in Essex
请和在埃塞克斯的圣学校
it's lunchtime look everyone's St from
现在是午餐时间,看看现在每个人的圣,
in now yeah they're going to be shocked
是的,他们会被震惊的
by the lunch
午餐
CU what do you Rec going you do when
CU 你要做什么 当
you're playing F on Snapchat or Tik Tok
你在 Snapchat 或 Tik Tok 上玩 F 时,你会做什么
because I reckon all my texts will be on
因为我认为我所有的短信都会在
there do you feel like you come to Dr
那里 你觉得你来找医生
better do not my sleep's better I'm more
更好吗 我的睡眠更好 我更善于
sociable concentrate better and sleep
社交 集中注意力 更好,睡得
better like in lessons I don't know why
更好,就像在课堂上一样,我不知道为什么,
but I'm more Focus
但
at the start of the phone ban Scarlet
在手机禁令开始之初,我更专注了。Scarlet
was one of the highest users of her
是智能手机使用率最高的人之一。
smartphone I used to have like three
我以前每天会有三次
panic attacks a day and then my anxiety
恐慌发作,然后我的焦虑
just sometimes happens I would go on my
只是有时会发生这种情况,我会打开
phone and that probably didn't help as
手机,但这可能没有多大帮助,
much imagine a whole m without your
想象一下没有你的手机的整个m,
phone I wouldn't do it guys it's my baby
我不会这样做,伙计们,这是我的孩子,
that's sad it's like a baby no that is
这很可悲,就像一个婴儿,不,这很
sad I like my phone but I'm I'm not
可悲,我喜欢我的手机,但是 我没有
obsessed with
沉迷
it I have felt less anxious without my
于此,我有 没有手机,我感觉没那么焦虑了。
phone I haven't had any anxiety or panic
我没有任何焦虑或恐慌
attacks I think it's has gone really
发作。我认为
well not having a
phone hi
手机真的
hello they been getting on really well
很好。你好,他们相处得很好,
and how are the kids getting on I don't
孩子们怎么样?我不
think any kids of giving up yeah I'm
认为任何孩子 放弃吧,是的,我
taking Instagram off my phone are you
要把 Instagram 从我的手机上删掉,你呢?
and I'm going to put it on my iPad which
我要把它放在我的 iPad 上,
I don't take out I'm not wasting my any
我不会把它拿出来,我不会浪费我的
free time with scrolling
空闲时间去浏览
and looking at other people's lives that
和查看其他人的生活,
don't benefit me that was almost
't 给我带来好处,这几乎是
inspirational what you mean
鼓舞人心的,你的意思是什么
almost school is done for another
学校几乎又放假一周了,
week which 3 weeks ago would have meant
三周前这意味着有
extra screen time I'm so hungry but now
额外的屏幕时间,我太饿了,但现在
for Jess Theo and Isaac it means more
对 Jess Theo 和 Isaac 来说,这意味着更多的
face to face
面对面
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time I look at that guy look he's
我看着那个人的时候,他
sharing with a how do people do that uh
正在和一个人们如何做到这一点呃这叫
what's it called
什么
practice you excited to get your phone
练习你很兴奋地拿回你的手机
back oh um a bit there things I've
哦嗯有点我
missed about it but I don't know I feel
错过了一些事情但我不知道我的感觉
like in the past week I actually haven't
就像过去一周我实际上没有
really hadn't crossed my mind I don't
真正想过 我不
know if that's just because like I've
知道是不是因为我
been filling it up with like doing other
一直在做其他
things I definitely think I'm going to
事情,我想我肯定会
delete like Tik Tok really yeah I
删除抖音,是的,我
usually get quite wored before I go to
通常在睡觉前会很累,
bed and I'm still suffering with that
而且我 我仍然为此感到痛苦,
but it's
like I suppose it's kind of ped I
我想这有点像
definitely feel happier without my
没有智能手机,我确实感觉更快乐,
smartphone I just feel like it sort of
我只是觉得它
made more time for things I actually
为我真正想做的事情腾出了更多的时间,
want to do go but to get rid of my
但要完全摆脱我的
smartphone completely I don't know
智能手机,我并不需要 知道
it's a new school week and tomorrow is
这是一个新的学校周,明天是
the last day of the
experiment so the University of York are
实验的最后一天,所以约克大学
back retesting the children for any
重新测试了孩子们是否有
cognitive or health
认知或健康
changes ready to reveal the findings as
变化,准备在手机归还后公布调查结果,
the phones are
returned but the teachers at the stanway
但斯坦威的老师们
school don't need to wait until the
学校不需要等到
results are in one thing that I noticed
结果出来,我
early into the experiment was that as
在实验初期注意到的一件事是,当
the students were coming in the students
学生们进来时,那些
who didn't have their phones seemed
没有带手机的学生似乎已经
ready to
准备好
learn they were alert they had already
学习了,他们很警觉,他们已经
spent 5 10 minutes before form time
花了 5 上课前 10 分钟
talking to their friends they hadn't
和朋友们聊天,他们没有
spend that time on a phone on the
花那么多时间打电话
gate in particular more sprightly the
门特别活泼的
eye contact when you sto them in the
眼神交流当你把他们放在走廊里
corridor when you're speaking to them
当你和他们说话的时候
when you're checking up on them their
当你检查他们的时候他们的
eye contact skills they just a couple of
眼神交流技巧他们只是几个
weeks seem better than they used to be
星期似乎比以前好多了
Scarab her confidence seemed low and her
Scarab 她的信心 情绪似乎很低落,
anxiety seemed High now she seems like a
焦虑似乎很高,现在她看起来像一个
different student it's not even on the
不同的学生,甚至没有达到
90 love look the 90s over here she's so
90年代的爱,看看90年代,她是如此
confident she comes up to me and has a
自信,她走到我面前和我
chat she seems to be going into lessons
聊天,她似乎正在上课,和
fine chatting away to friends and that
朋友聊天 这
seems to be a really remarkable change
似乎是一个非常显著的变化,
yeah Riley is a completely different
是的,莱利是一个完全不同的
student and I think we've seen that a
学生,我想我们
bit in the corridors I mean you I was
在走廊里已经看到了这一点,我的意思是你,我
going to say I mean I taught him last
想说,我的意思是我去年教过他
year and last three weeks he's been so
,过去三周他一直
much Karma he really has miles has been
他真的经历了太多的因果,他一直在
struggling m yeah and he's found it hard
努力,是的,他觉得很难,
but every day goes past he's developed
但每一天过去,他都已经形成了
that resilience and he isn't giving in
这种韧性,他没有屈服,
we're nearly done yeah and to see that
我们快完成了,是的,看到这种
transformation is is wonderful it
转变真是太棒了,
is guys I'm
伙计们 我
back well benefits of a smartphone free
回来了,没有智能手机的生活的好处
life are clear for the
对
kids this whole process has been a
孩子们来说是显而易见的,整个过程
revelation for me and Matt over the last
对我和马特来说,过去
3 weeks we've learned a lot and we've
三周里我们学到了很多东西,也
seen a a lot after meeting Mark Lisa and
看到了很多东西。在见到马克·丽莎和
Jenna we got home and I was like right
詹娜之后,我们回到了家,我觉得
restrictions on literally everything
一切都受到了限制,
I've not been able to stop thinking
我没能 不要再想
about it like it's not I don't think
了,好像这不是真的。我想
there's a day gone by that I haven't
没有一天我不曾
thought about them
想过他们,
since it was a complete waste of life
因为这完全是浪费生命,
that will happen again so however good
还会再发生的,所以无论
your kids are however much you trust
你的孩子有多好,无论你有多信任
them you can't trust what they're being
他们,你都可以 不相信他们所看到的东西
shown and that
,这
is a reality we keep thinking of these
就是现实,我们一直在想这些
tragic stories terrifying statistics and
悲惨的故事,可怕的统计数据,以及
real lack of meaningful age
真正缺乏有意义的年龄
verification with brick phones as an
验证,砖头手机作为
alternative option we're asking
替代选择,我们在问
ourselves why isn't there a smartphone
自己为什么没有智能手机
ban for children until at least 14 and
禁令 适用于至少 14 岁以下的儿童,
today we have access to the one place
今天我们有一个
that can make that
可以实现这一目标的地方,
happen I call the minister Peter Kyle we
我打电话给部长彼得·凯尔,我们
are meeting Peter Kyle I want to see a
正在会见彼得·凯尔,我希望看到一个
future where technology enriches the
未来,技术丰富了
life of every single citizen he is at
他在的每一位公民的生活 他是
the heart of government and it's his job
政府的核心人物,他的职责是
to keep us all safe
确保我们所有人的
online but so far he's resisted calls
网络安全,但到目前为止,他一直拒绝
for a smartphone
ban I think I was quite naive going into
我认为自己在智能手机禁令问题上的想法非常幼稚
this and I think what we've seen and
learned over the last few weeks has
过去几周我们看到和了解到的情况
really kind of knocked me for six how
确实让我大吃一惊,
explicit some of the content is how how
一些内容太过露骨,
easy it is to access it everywhere we
人们在任何地方都能轻易获取这些内容 我们
look seems to point
似乎认为
towards
surely these phones shouldn't be in
这些手机不应该在
young people's hands so why isn't there
年轻人手中,那么为什么不
a ban on them we have this world where
禁止它们呢?我们生活在一个
social media it just sort of evolved
from thein society then we have to find
从社会中进化而来的世界,那么我们必须找到
ways to make it safe now we're not there
方法 现在很安全,我们还没有到那
yet we're taking steps towards getting
一步,我们正在朝着那个方向迈进,
there now what I'm not doing is saying
我现在要做的不是
that it's going to be a Panacea uh and
说它会成为灵丹妙药,也不是
that all things are going to be uh
说所有的事情都会变得
perfect to start with it does feel like
完美,一开始确实感觉
we have to do it really quickly because
我们必须尽快采取行动,因为
in the time that we're trying to figure
在我们试图弄清楚的时候,
it
out devastatingly young people are dying
年轻人
still and I know you know that because I
仍然在死亡,我知道你知道这一点,因为我
know that you meet parents of children
知道你遇到了已经去世的孩子的父母,
who have passed away yeah no I do you
是的,我知道
cannot meet those families without being
如果你见到这些家庭,你一定会被
absolutely shaken to the core for what's
what's happened to them and what's
他们身上发生的事情和
happening in in general you know we have
美国发生的事情深深震撼。 将军,你知道我们必须
to move forward
向前迈进,
also I've inherited a a legislative a
我还继承了一项立法
program of lawmaking which hasn't fully
计划,
run its course yet a lot of them coming
该计划还没有完全完成,其中很多计划
in next year but I've tried really hard
明年才会实施,但我已经非常努力地
to be creative to use the powers that I
创造性地使用这些权力 我
do have to to start this this chain in
必须启动这个链条,
motion I mean I don't I don't envy you
我的意思是我不羡慕你
making an addictive substance giving
制造一种令人上瘾的物质,给
them a little bit of it doesn't seem to
他们一点似乎
work you know like moderation is a very
不起作用,你知道适度是一件
hard thing to to navigate if we take
很难的事情 如果我们采取
solid steps forward and we keep that
坚实的步伐,保持这种
energy and momentum going forward we can
活力和势头,我们
make changes not just in this area but
不仅可以在这个领域做出改变,而且可以
in lots of different areas I think the
在很多不同领域做出改变,我认为
Online safety bill and the the Online
网络安全法案和网络
safety environment that we're going to
安全环境
have particularly from next year uh we
特别是从明年开始,我们
will have probably the most stringent
将制定可能是所有国家中最严格的
rules regulations and sets of
法规和
projections of of any country by next
预测,到明年
summer every company that's selling corn
夏天,每家销售玉米
or has a platform which uh provides porn
或提供色情内容平台的公司都
will have to do meaningful age
必须进行有意义的年龄
verification
验证,
why can't we move quicker because at the
为什么不能 我们不应该行动得更快,因为按照
pace we're going we're so far behind
我们目前的速度,我们已经远远落后于
technology anyway that we're never going
技术,我们永远也
to catch up when it comes actually
赶不上。 它实际上
stopping kids have handsets in the first
首先阻止了孩子们使用手机,
place as I said I'm really openminded to
正如我所说,我对此持非常开放的态度,
it I just need to see that it's the
我只需要看到它是否是
right tool in the right circumstance now
在正确情况下的正确工具,就我
personally right now I don't think that
个人而言,目前我不认为
that's that's the right way forward but
这是正确的方式 但
as I said why don't you think it's the
正如我所说,你为什么不认为这是
right way because it's very hard to
正确的方式,因为
outlaw people of a certain age having a
禁止一定年龄的人拥有
handset so if we pass a law uh and
手机是非常困难的,所以如果我们通过一项法律,那么
parents do do feel the pressur to go and
父母们确实会感受到去
buy them for one kid and one kid goes to
为他们购买手机的压力 一个孩子和一个孩子去
class then the law becomes meaningless
上课,那么法律就变得毫无意义
and I really don't want to pass a law
,我真的不想通过这样一条法律,
where one of the first examples that
young people experience is breaking the
年轻人遇到的第一个例子就是违法,
law so getting this balance right is
所以要正确平衡这一点
really
真的很
difficult he said that he wasn't closed
困难,他说他不是 并没有
off to the possibility of a smartphone
否认智能手机禁令的可能性,
ban he said he was openminded to that
他说他对此持开放态度,
which I think was a massive thing for
我认为这对他来说是一件大事,
him to say yeah it would definitely take
是的,这肯定需要
more than him but that is I think where
他付出更多努力,但我认为这就是
a collective needs to come in yeah
集体需要参与的地方,是的
because we can't wait really for their
因为我们真的等不及他们的
timelines because damage is being done
时间表了,因为现在破坏已经造成,
now people are being hurt now and they
人们正在受到伤害 他们
need to play their
需要好好发挥他们的
part well I just don't believe it 21 we
部分我只是不相信它21我们
going to get my phone
会拿回我的手机
back so today is the final day of the
所以今天是实验的最后一天,
experiment and I have to admit I'm very
我不得不承认我很
excited to get my phone back I'm really
兴奋得到 我拿回了我的手机我真的很
excited but I feel like I could go
兴奋但我觉得我可以更
longer without my phone I don't mind if
长时间没有我的手机我不介意
I didn't get it back today go go quickly
今天没有拿回它快走
I'm going to go to school and get my
我要去学校拿回我的
phone back bye Harry bye bye bye bye
手机再见 哈利,再见,再见,祝你
have a nice day or not even a kiss
有美好的一天,或者甚至不是一个吻
here we are final Journey back to school
我们在这里,回到学校的最后旅程,
I'm really looking forward to it yeah
我真的很期待它,是的,
excited about not like gave my phone
很兴奋,不像把我的手机
back yeah I'm I'm looking forward
还给我,是的,我正在寻找
to seeing the
期待看到
kids we constantly have issues with
孩子们我们经常遇到
students that are up late at night on a
学生在深夜玩
smartphone so their sleeping patterns
智能手机的问题,所以他们的睡眠习惯
get affected did their relationships
会受到影响,他们的人际关系和
their mental health this experiment is a
心理健康也会受到影响,这个实验是一个
chance to have genuine Research into an
机会,可以对一个没有'的领域进行真正的研究
area that doesn't seem to have it at the
目前似乎没有,
moment hi hi everyone how's it going you
大家
good 21 days ago we were sat in this
好吗?21天前我们坐在这个
room and we all thought it was going to
房间里 我们都以为这将是
be a very long 3 weeks and suddenly here
非常漫长的三周,但突然间
we are and most importantly none of you
,最重要的是,你们都没有
dropped out I've got to say we're
退学,我不得不说,我们
feeling pretty great we are yeah
感觉非常好,是的,
during the experiment the schoolwide
在实验期间,全校
survey has explored exactly how students
调查已经探索
at the school normally use their
学校里的学生通常如何使用
smartphones
智能手机?
38% of students are using their phones
38%的学生每天使用手机的时间长达
for four or more hours per day
4 个小时或更长时间?
177% of them are using them for 6 hours
177%的学生使用手机的时间长达 6 个小时
or more 30% of students use phones after
或更长时间? 30%的学生在
1 p.m. wow we dedicate so much time to
下午 1 点后使用手机。 哇,我们为他们的教育投入了这么多时间,
their education but this device is
但当
having equal if not more when you add in
你
weekends time in their lives yeah how
在他们的生活中增加周末时间时,这个设备所起的作用是一样的,甚至更多,是的,
are you all feeling about these devices
你们今天对这些设备有什么感觉,
coming out of the box today I do miss my
我确实很想念我的
phone a lot but my mom says I've been a
手机,但是 我妈妈说我显然已经成为了一个
much better child apparently oh really
更好的孩子哦,真的很
it's nice to actually be able to engage
高兴能够
with Harry a bit more I'd come home from
与哈利多互动一点我下班回家,
work and it'd be like onew answers all
就像温流一直回答一样,
the time but now we can actually sit
但现在我们实际上可以 坐在
there a proper conversation yeah the
那里好好聊聊,是的,
amount of time we get to spend together
我们一家人在一起度过的时间
as a family has increased loads hasn't
增加了许多,不是
it he's involved he's setting the table
吗?他参与其中,他摆桌子,
he's he's help him make the dinner so
他帮他做晚饭,所以
would you say that you feel like you've
你会说你觉得你
got your kids back absolutely
有 你的孩子回来了,
yeah hearing so many positive stories
是的,听到这么多
from the families is encouraging you
来自家庭的积极故事,你很受鼓舞,
ready to hear the results but what
准备好听结果了,但
evidence has the University of York
约克大学的研究有什么证据
study revealed you said you have
表明你说你每晚
slept on average
平均多睡了
1 hour extra per night wow and I'm
一个小时,哇,我
convinced that one of the ways we tackle
相信 我们应对
the mental health epidemic in this
这个
country with Children and adolescents is
国家儿童和青少年心理健康流行病的方法之一是
to get them sleeping better
让他们睡觉 更好的
yeah before you started you guys were
是,在你们开始之前,你们
worried about social connections weren't
担心社交联系,不是吗?
you but what actually happened is that
但实际上,
you said you felt more socially
你说
connected during the ban and I guess
在禁令期间,你感觉社交联系更加紧密,我想
that's probably due to the increase in
这可能是因为
real world interactions before you gave
在你
up your smartphones you had more
放弃你的 智能手机 自从你放弃智能手机后,你的
symptoms linked with anxiety and
焦虑和抑郁相关症状有所增加
depression since you gave them up your
moods have
情绪有所
improved the students reported a 177%
改善 学生们报告称抑郁
decrease in symptoms linked to
相关症状减少了 177%,
depression and an 18% decrease in
symptoms linked to
anxiety I've seen individual
焦虑相关症状减少了 18% 我已经看到
improvements with patients in the past
患者的个人改善 过去,
but this experiment Within an entire
但这个实验在整个
class it definitely surpassed what I
班级中,它绝对超出了我的预期,
thought I was going to see the group
我会看到这个小组的
also showed a 3% boost in working memory
工作记忆也提高了 3%
and for this time span it's just
,在这个时间跨度内,这真是令人
incredible and that's a short time isn't
难以置信,而且时间很短,
it yeah yeah pretty profound brilli 3
不是吗,是的 相当深刻,太棒了,3
weeks yeah in terms of common principles
周,是的,就我们可以采用的共同原则而言,
we can adopt you could have screen-free
你可以有无屏幕的
meal times for example what about having
用餐时间,例如,
no technology in our bedroom I think we
我们的卧室里没有科技产品,我认为我们
as parents are going to have to help our
作为父母必须帮助我们的
children reset their Rel ship with
孩子重新建立他们的关系
technology despite the clear benefits
尽管技术有明显的好处,但要从
it's so tough to take smartphones away
from kids who already have them it does
已经拥有智能手机的孩子手中夺走智能手机却非常困难,这确实
feel like government intervention is
让人感觉政府 需要干预
needed to help parents and let children
来帮助父母,让孩子们过上
live smartphone free okay so hands up if
没有智能手机的生活,好的,如果
you think that kids under the age of 14
你认为 14 岁以下的孩子
need a
需要
smartphone so no
智能手机,请举手,所以没有
one right the bit that 50 % of the room
人说得对,房间里 50% 的人
have been waiting
一直在等待
for the experiment is over
实验结束
oh first up to get their phones back are
哦 首先拿回手机的是
the teachers Alex Alex I'll be come come
老师 Alex Alex 我会来的
on here we go how have you felt I loved
来吧 我们开始吧 你感觉怎么样 我很喜欢 是
it yeah thanks
的 谢谢
Alex Laura you ready yes y
Alex Laura 你准备好了 是
t thank very much John C on think get
的 非常感谢 John C 想想得到
one's mine any notifications I don't
我的任何通知我 不
know have a look I don't need to
知道看看我不需要是
yes love go love it all right kids are
的爱去爱这一切好的孩子们
you
你们
ready Harry W here we go come on mate
准备好了吗[掌声]哈利W我们走了来吧伙计是的
yeah that's it there we go mate oh thank
就是这样我们走了伙计哦
you very much
非常
thanks my dad is really proud of me
感谢谢谢我的爸爸 真的很为我感到骄傲,我
giving up my phone for fre weeks three
免费放弃了手机几周三周
wow such a long time how are you feeling
哇这么长时间你感觉怎么样
the I think I'm going to like limit my
我想我会限制我
time on certain apps well me good
在某些应用程序上的时间,好吧我
work next up it's Jessica you've had a
做得很好接下来是杰西卡你有
great time without it haven't you I have
没有它的日子过得很愉快,不是吗?
actually it's been really nice I feel
事实上,我觉得这真的很棒
like I've sort of opened up a bit more
into the world around me Jessica well
对周围的世界更加开放了 Jessica 做得好
done well done well done wel done do you
做得好 做得好 做得好 你
think that smartphones should be banned
认为应该禁止
for children under 14 years
14 岁以下儿童使用智能手机吗
old I do I do think we
我认为我们
should Isaac
应该 艾萨克
[Laughter]
[笑声]
are you looking forward to having your
你期待拿回你的
phone back yes and no I just feel like I
手机是和否我只是觉得我
don't really need it anymore
不再需要它了
真的
Scarlet I've it you're like eyes on the
Scarlet 我得到了它你就像盯着
prize I'm not looking at you Emma Willis
奖品的眼睛我没有看着你 Emma Willis
I'm looking at the Box she wants to see
我在寻找 在盒子里她想看看
it have you had benefits do you yeah I
你有好处吗是的我
think that I've slept better like my
认为我睡得更好,就像我的
mental Health's been better and I've
心理健康变得更好,我
been a lot better at school like
在学校的表现也好多了,比如
concentrating and I've been kinder to my
集中注意力,我对我的
family oh really wow they're
家人更友善 哦,真的,哇,它们
massive I feel like I'm not going to use
太大了,我觉得我不会
it as much if I started off with a brick
经常使用它,如果我一开始用的是砖头
phone then I wouldn't want a smartphone
手机,那么我就不会想要智能手机了,
but it's cuz I've had a smartphone there
但那是因为我在那里有一部智能手机,
like quite a big difference last but no
就像一部相当大的 最后但
means least miles how you doing man how
并非最不重要的差异英里你好吗伙计
you feeling fine I would probably say
你感觉怎么样我可能会说
that we should keep our phones now but
我们应该保持 我们现在的手机,但
in next Generations to come make it so
下一代手机将使
they can't have their phone how are you
他们无法拥有自己的手机,你
feeling about yours I feel all right B
对你的手机感觉如何,我感觉还好,B
yes ma'am yes
是的,女士,是的,是
yes just going put it straight in my
的,我会把它直接放在我的
back
背上,
yeah a huge thank you to everyone
是的,非常感谢
especially the stanway school and all
the people that took part in this
experiment we really really appreciate
我们真的非常感谢斯坦威学校和所有参与这项实验的人,
it we have learned so much about
我们从中学到了很多关于
smartphone use so much and the real
智能手机使用的知识,以及
impacts it has on our kids and their
它对我们的孩子、他们的
development and their mental health it's
发展和心理健康的真正影响,这是
been staggering and I think the the one
令人震惊的。 我认为
thing that we really want to get out of
我们真正希望从这个实验中得到的一件事
this experiment is that we really hope
是,我们真的希望
that it will get the ball rolling and
它能够推动事情的发展,并
change will begin because I think what
开始改变,因为我认为
we all want is that for our kids to be
我们都希望我们的孩子
able to be in the tech World from the
能够 从
right age but be absolutely safe within
适当的年龄开始接触科技世界,但要绝对安全,
it if we can all kind of put that
如果我们都能施加
pressure on hopefully we can make
压力,希望我们能够做出
positive change thank you all so much
积极的改变,非常感谢大家,
this moment is huge it goes so far
这一刻意义重大,远远
beyond this school and these
超出了这所学校和这些
kids we have allowed this technology
孩子 我们已经允许这项技术
into every aspect of our lives but we've
进入我们生活的方方面面,但我们
just shown the impact of this so the
刚刚展示了它的影响,所以
question for all of us is what are we
我们所有人的问题是,我们该怎么
going to
change when I think about the idea of a
当我想到
smartphone ban
禁止
to the age of
14 I think that's a very wise
14 岁儿童使用智能手机的想法时,我认为这是一个非常明智的
decision we are exposing them to so much
决定,我们让他们接触了太多
stuff that they can't process or they
他们无法处理或
shouldn't be seeing and we are allowing
不应该看到的东西,而我们 允许
that to happen as long as we have
这种情况发生,只要我们能保证
ultimate safety for our children online
我们的孩子在网上的绝对安全,
that is the end goal it's got to be tech
这就是最终目标,这必须是科技
公司的责任,必须是政府的责任,
每个人都需要发挥自己的作用,
government can't turn a blind eye to
政府不能
this anymore you've got to look at it
再对此视而不见了。 我必须看看它,
and go this is a massive problem
这是一个巨大的问题